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War Party Targets Putin and Assad
Townhall.com ^ | October 6, 2015 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 10/06/2015 7:31:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

Having established a base on the Syrian coast, Vladimir Putin last week began air strikes on ISIS and other rebel forces seeking to overthrow Bashar Assad.

A longtime ally of Syria, Russia wants to preserve its toehold on the Mediterranean, help Assad repel the threat, and keep the Islamic terrorists out of Damascus.

Russia is also fearful that the fall of Assad would free up the Chechen terrorists in Syria to return to Russia.

In intervening to save Assad, Putin is doing exactly what we are doing to save our imperiled allies in Baghdad and Kabul.

Yet Putin's intervention has ignited an almost berserk reaction.

John McCain has called for sending the Free Syrian Army surface-to-air missiles to bring down Russian planes. Not only could this lead to a U.S.-Russia clash, but U.S.-backed Syrian rebels have a record of transferring weapons to the al-Qaida affiliate.

The end result of McCain's initiative, sending Stingers to Syria, could be airliners blown out of the sky across the Middle East.

Hillary Clinton wants the U.S. to create a no-fly zone. And Friday's Wall Street Journal endorsed the idea:

"Mr. Obama could make Mr. Putin pay a price. ... In Syria the U.S. could set up a no-fly zone to create a safe haven for refugees against ... Mr. Assad's barrel bombs. He could say U.S. planes will fly wherever they want, and if one is attacked the U.S. will respond in kind."

U.S.-Russian dogfights over Syria are just fine with the Journal.

Saturday's Washington Post seconded the motion, admonishing Obama: "Carve out safe zones. Destroy the helicopter fleet Mr. Assad uses for his war crimes."

Has the War Party thought this through?

Establishing a no-fly zone over Syria, which means shooting down Syrian fighter-bombers and helicopters, is an act of war. But when did Congress authorize the president to go to war with Syria?

When last Obama requested such authority -- in 2013, when chemical weapons were used -- the American people arose as one to say no to U.S. intervention. Congress backed away without even voting.

Unprovoked air strikes on Syrian government forces would represent an unauthorized and unconstitutional American war. Does the Party of the Constitution no longer care about the Constitution?

Is a Republican Congress really willing to give Barack Obama a blank check to take us to war with Syria, should he choose to do so?

Is this what America voted for in 2014?

A no-fly zone means U.S. warplanes downing Syrian planes and helicopters and bombing antiaircraft defenses at Syrian airfields.

To Damascus this would mean the Americans have committed to the defeat of their armed forces and downfall of their regime.

The Syrians would fight -- and not only the Syrian army. For Russia, Hezbollah and Iran are all allied to the Damascus regime, as all believe they have a vital interest in its survival.

How would Russia, Iran and Hezbollah respond to U.S. air strikes on their ally? Would they pack it in and leave? Is that our experience with these folks?

Today, the U.S. is conducting strikes on ISIS, and the al-Qaida affiliate. But if we begin to attack the Syrian army or air force, we will be in a new war where the entire Shiite Crescent of Iran, Baghdad, Damascus and Hezbollah, backed by Russia, will be on the other side.

We will have taken the Sunni side in the Sunni-Shiite sectarian long war.

How long such a war would last, and how it would end, no one knows.

Whatever one thinks of Putin's policy in Syria, at least it makes sense. He is supporting an ally, the Assad regime, against its enemies, who seek to overthrow that regime.

It is U.S. policy in Syria that makes no sense.

We train rebels at immense cost to fight Assad, who cannot or will not fight. We attack ISIS, which also seeks to bring down the Assad regime. And we, too, want to bring down Assad.

Who do we think will rise if Assad falls?

Do we have a "government in a box" that we think we can fly to Damascus and put into power if the Syrian army collapses, the regime falls and ISIS approaches the capital?

Have we forgotten the lesson of "Animal Farm"? When the animals revolt and take over the farm, the pigs wind up in charge.

For months, Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia has called on Congress to debate and decide before we launch any new war in the Middle East.

One wishes him well. For it is obvious that the same blockheads who told us that if the Taliban and Saddam and Gadhafi fell, liberal democracy would arise and flourish, are now clamoring for another American war in Syria to bring down Assad.

And who says stay out? Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, both of whom also opposed the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

There is something to be said for outsiders.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: china; iran; obama; pitchforkpat; russia; syria

1 posted on 10/06/2015 7:31:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

McCain needs to dropped over Tehran as a dumb bomb. With his bonehead, he should penetrate many yards of reinforced concrete.


2 posted on 10/06/2015 7:37:41 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Kaslin

Saudi owned. Lock stock and barrel.


3 posted on 10/06/2015 7:38:29 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Kaslin


4 posted on 10/06/2015 7:39:31 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Kaslin

The best middle east foreign policy. Stay out! You can’t win.


5 posted on 10/06/2015 7:40:49 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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To: Kaslin

McCain is a dangerous person. Tragic, but psycho.


6 posted on 10/06/2015 7:43:04 AM PDT by Ray76
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To: Kaslin
...the same blockheads who told us that if the Taliban and Saddam and Gadhafi fell, liberal democracy would arise and flourish...

But, but, but...both Twitter & Facebook are trending in support of that notion!

TMX and ET polls are in full agreement! So are Barbara Streisand, Ted Dansen, Matt Damon and the entire cast of GLEE!

Mika is delighted! Chris Matthews is getting a tingle!

/S

7 posted on 10/06/2015 7:48:29 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Buy stock in Bear Port-a-Potties!)
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To: McGruff

“The best middle east foreign policy. Stay out! You can’t win.”


8 posted on 10/06/2015 7:48:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Pass the popcorn, set back/watch the Russians destroy Isis in Syria and Iran doing the same in Iraq)
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To: Kaslin

I think it should be “The Saudi-owned Party.”

I am about as much of a war hawk as you can be. I am a cold-war era vet and dislike the Sov, er, Russians. But I want the US out the area and the Syrian government and their Russian patrons allowed to destroy ISIS, and the rebels. If anything we should be offering the Russians help...


9 posted on 10/06/2015 7:53:11 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Kaslin
BESERK! What a wonderful under used word that describes so many so well and now, so often. The GOPe here to forth; shalt be referred to for evermore as... “THE BESERKS”.

Well it does sound better than Whigs.

:-)

10 posted on 10/06/2015 8:09:06 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: Kaslin

BERSERK.....BERSERK....

THE BERSERKS........

Ah the trouble with “R”s returns to the fingers of the damned.

So sowwee.....


11 posted on 10/06/2015 8:10:48 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: Little Ray

12 posted on 10/06/2015 8:45:45 AM PDT by Bobalu (Russians.... not ashamed of being white!)
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To: Kaslin

Sorry, but the opening phrase “Having established a base on the Syrian coast” is inaccurate.

It should read “Having RE-established a base on the Syrian coast”

Russia, in its many forms have always pushed to have a warm water port in the Med. They had a base, or basing agreement, with Syria since the mid-1970s. So Putin’s actions in the region is nothing new and should have been part of the baseline considerations when dealing with Syria.


13 posted on 10/06/2015 9:16:19 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Kaslin

Whenever I see a picture with Putin and 0bama, the expression on Putin’s face is usually some variation of “you have GOT to be freaking kidding me”.

Kind of reminds me of the expression on Cheney’s face (from 2009?) in that famous picture where he’s shaking 0bama’s hand.


14 posted on 10/06/2015 9:27:26 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This space for rent.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t like the Russians, the Syrians, Iran or ISIS; they’re all enemies. We should just let them slug it out and watch the show.


15 posted on 10/06/2015 9:39:40 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Political Correctness is Suppression of Free Speech. Thank the Commies for Political Correctness.)
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To: McGruff

“The best middle east foreign policy. Stay out! You can’t win.”

+1


16 posted on 10/06/2015 9:40:32 AM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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17 posted on 10/06/2015 9:48:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

It’s my understanding the S-300 has been deployed around their Syrian bases. Therefore low survivability for any conventional fighters going against them. May even be effective against stealthy assets, since it can successfully engage cruise missiles.


18 posted on 10/06/2015 10:41:04 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

More BS from Pitchfork Pat:
Russia is also fearful that the fall of Assad would free up the Chechen terrorists in Syria to return to Russia.

Putin should unleash Chechen troops on Isis, says region's president




19 posted on 10/06/2015 5:40:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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