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Gun Control's Biggest Problem: Most People Just Don't Care Very Much
motherjones.com ^ | 10/4/2015 | Kevin Drum

Posted on 10/04/2015 9:54:28 AM PDT by rktman

Atkins is certainly right that Democratic legislators won't act on gun control until voters are mobilized, but that puts the cart before the horse. You can't mobilize voters on an issue they don't really care much about in the first place. In this case, I think the folks who prioritize issue-area visibility and engagement probably have the better of the argument. Until voters who favor gun control feel as strongly as those who oppose it, all the field work in the world won't do any good.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; election2016; guncontrol; momunists; newyork; oregon; secondamendment; trump
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HOLY CRAP! Mommaf'njones. LOL! Wow. But then again, NOT wow. Typical panties in a wad BS. Hey assclowns. The reason "most folks don't care", is because they are bright enough to understand that in a country with 300+ million firearms in private hands, it really isn't, statistically a problem. NRA and the vocal 'minority'? The folks who support the 2nd need to get even more vocal. Fookin' idjits.
1 posted on 10/04/2015 9:54:28 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

If gun control worked liberal run hellholes like Chicago and Detroit wouldn’t have the highest kill rates in the county.


2 posted on 10/04/2015 9:55:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal elites have created an environment that encourages hatred of Christians.)
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To: rktman

Yes, motherjerk, I want the left to render me as defensless as those people in that school and every other school.

I want any maniac with a gun to be able to do whatever he wants to me and anyone else whenever he wants.

I want my only course of action to be getting on my knees and begging for my life.

I want to know that as I get murdered by a lawless criminal that I obeyed the law of stupid leftists, who don’t care at all that we die, they only care that we will never be their subjects as long as we have the ability to effectively defend ourselves, much like the rampage killers that come almost always from their own base.


3 posted on 10/04/2015 10:01:23 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: rktman
...an issue they don't really care much about...

I think a good measure of this feeling is because most people are smart enough to know it doesn't work. The same people arguing for it probably think prohibition prevented people from drinking. Indeed, I'd go the other way: Make the entire US a concealed carry (CC) zone. Take a look at how many mass murders occur in "gun free" zones, like schools and college campuses. A big sign saying "This is a CC zone." might make some lunatic think twice before drawing a gun.

4 posted on 10/04/2015 10:01:34 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: GOPJ

If there were to be one national reform law concerning the ownership and use of personal sidearms, it would be to outlaw anything resembling a “gun-free zone”, which are just killing grounds for those who are not going to obey the sign anyway.

Localities that enact total or near-total bans on gun ownership have only themselves to blame for rising crimes and homicides where a gun was involved.

On this, the science is settled.


5 posted on 10/04/2015 10:03:36 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: rktman

Actually, I DO care.
Which is why I own guns.
As for Mother Jones....well, as Thumper’s mother once said, “If you cannot say anything nice.....”


6 posted on 10/04/2015 10:03:46 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: GOPJ

We’re out in the country - Tennessee. We were raised
with guns. Fathers fought in WWII; many of them were
raised hunting to provide food for their many brothers
and sisters. - Most everyone living around us has
guns, for hunting, for protection. - They don’t
generally have to use them. - Most of the shootings
are in Obama’s “gun free zones” where the perps know
that no one is armed. - Obamalogic.


7 posted on 10/04/2015 10:04:07 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: GOPJ

The author admits that gun control is losing to gun rights.

...A few months ago, a Pew poll that pitted gun control against gun rights found that gun rights won by 52-46 percent...


8 posted on 10/04/2015 10:05:07 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If youce, prepare for war.)
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To: rktman

Criminals obey gun laws like politicians obey their oaths of office.


9 posted on 10/04/2015 10:05:19 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: rktman

*sob!*


10 posted on 10/04/2015 10:08:26 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: econjack

Didn’t the Donald mention that ccw should be like your drivers license? Of course the having to have a permit part sticks in my craw anyway.


11 posted on 10/04/2015 10:10:40 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

The dichotomy between Commie serfs and Americans is not that strange.
Americans have rights guaranteed by the former Constitution, commie serfs have to be constantly pumped up by their masters.


12 posted on 10/04/2015 10:19:59 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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I think gun control’s biggest problem is that people understand that gun-free zones are specifically targeted by mass shooters for exactly that reason...they're gun free. These murderers may be crazy, but they're not stupid. Gun-free zones are an epic fail and Americans are catching on.
13 posted on 10/04/2015 10:20:05 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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Oregon shooter’s father says UK gun bans are what is needed in the U.S.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/03/oregon-shooters-father-says-what-could-have-prevented-his-shooting-rampage-what-right-do-you-have/


14 posted on 10/04/2015 10:24:03 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: rktman
True that. The only permit that should be required is th 2nd. Nothing else.

/johnny

15 posted on 10/04/2015 10:26:16 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: KeyLargo

Like I said. Brit wanker.


16 posted on 10/04/2015 10:26:50 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: econjack

Yep. The conceit of the left is that a) they are smarter and b) they are always correct.

Therefore, any failure to adopt their policies to the letter is down to sloth? What a laugher.

I and any firearms I own were not responsible for Oregon, Charleston, Newton et al just as I and any knives I own were not responsible for the OJ murders.

I reject the concept of collective guilt/responsibility because, as leftists have demonstrated repeatedly, their ‘cure’ involves treating me as a criminal. Worse, their ‘cure’ often allows criminals even more latitude while restricting my rights.

If that’s laziness, then call me Rip Van Winkle.


17 posted on 10/04/2015 10:27:16 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: chris37

As a well known gun guy said, think about how you will be pictured in the crime scene photos. Would you rather be hiding in the fetal position full of bullet holes, or standing on a pile of empty brass surrounded by dead criminals?

I know my answer, what is yours?


18 posted on 10/04/2015 10:32:17 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: SkyDancer

That’s tag line material there


19 posted on 10/04/2015 10:45:10 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: GOPJ
If gun control worked liberal run hellholes like Chicago and Detroit wouldn’t have the highest kill rates in the county.

But, but, if only legal citizens were banned from possessing legal firearms everywhere else, why then the criminals everywhere would suddenly stop getting illegal guns and murdering innocents and committing illegal acts. You know just like those previous amnesties stopped illegal immigration.

20 posted on 10/04/2015 10:45:27 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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