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1 posted on 10/01/2015 12:00:20 PM PDT by EveningStar
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2 posted on 10/01/2015 12:02:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Spent a lot of time with Engineers in many disciplines...

I call this a solution looking for a problem...

We cannot even explore the bottom of our oceans but we want to run off to space??

Engineers...

Also a GREAT way to create a “dream” and burn through scandalous amounts of money to do what...

Float around in a space station looking down at that which you don’t really know while casting your eyes about for ...

Vanity, All is Vanity...


3 posted on 10/01/2015 12:05:03 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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I say let’s colonize Mars with ‘RATS and their liberal fellow travelers, and we’ll clean up the mess they made down here.


4 posted on 10/01/2015 12:05:16 PM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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Some of the arguments are bunk, but some are pretty hurdles significant to overcome.

That doesn’t meant we shouldn’t try. It is what we do as Americans.


6 posted on 10/01/2015 12:07:55 PM PDT by Gamecock (Preach the gospel daily, use words if necessary is like saying Feed the hungry use food if necessary)
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Elton John and his partner of the day wrote a song abot it.

Rocket Man..

Mars aint no place to grow no kids..

In fact its cold as hecckulaaa.

;-)

I should live so long to see humans on Mars.


7 posted on 10/01/2015 12:07:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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Yeah, the Hindenburg was the prime example why aircraft will never be practical.


9 posted on 10/01/2015 12:08:58 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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That would mean less subscribers on Earth.


10 posted on 10/01/2015 12:09:08 PM PDT by lbryce (OBAMA:Misbegotten, GodForsaken, Bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa)
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I almost disregarded this as soon as I saw “New York Times”, but I gave it a shot anyway.

What a whiny bastard.

I think many of the same arguments (same flavor, anyway) were made when sea voyages were first proposed.

Agree, the “NASA way of doing things” is part of the problem.

Propulsion technologies are what need work.

I think like most totalitarians and their advocates, they are afraid of people actually leaving their sphere of influence and becoming independent colonies, and eventually, nations!

No wonder no one wants to fund colonies anymore. They are the ultimate treason! They are leaving!
Can you just imagine a broken down, bankrupt, polluted Earth power demanding a Mars colony support and supply them, and the “Martians” saying “Nope!”


11 posted on 10/01/2015 12:09:08 PM PDT by Kodos the Executioner (.. the revolution is successful, but survival depends upon drastic measures..")
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If something is discovered on Mars that could make one RICH, we will soon be living there.

Economics has been the prime driving force throughout all of human history.


14 posted on 10/01/2015 12:12:39 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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” Sometimes, technology is a triumph of wild-eyed enthusiasm over the unpleasant facts”

I prefer how we put it back in my day -—

The triumph of spare parts over common sense.


15 posted on 10/01/2015 12:13:28 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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26 posted on 10/01/2015 12:39:44 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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” wild-eyed enthusiasm over the unpleasant facts of the real world.”

Funny statement from a left-wing paper.

I think psychologists call this “projection”.


27 posted on 10/01/2015 12:43:56 PM PDT by fruser1
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In the early years of the 20th century, zeppelins filled with flammable and explosive hydrogen were all the rage in Germany, a reckless infatuation that ended with the eruption and crash of the Hindenburg in 1937.

It wasn't because Germany was infatuated with hydrogen gas. The U.S.A. had a monopoly on helium and withheld it from the Germans. Hitler was desperate and had no choice but to use hydrogen. The U.S.A. was ruthless about keeping strategic resources out of the hands of enemy states like Germany and Japan. Unlike our current "leader" who gives them away to enemy states.

28 posted on 10/01/2015 12:45:55 PM PDT by roadcat
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Mankind is intended to bring to life the expression of eternal optimism, not eternal pessimism.

Where there is a hill to conquer, man will find a way. It is who we are as a species.

Yes, a number of things the writer said are true. That was however only one way of looking at those problems.

Can a habitat be built, something on the order of a large terrarium?

Can fish and plants and water be combined to become a great food source and a sustainable eco system?

You know folks, if you want something done, you can put you mind to it and accomplish it.

No Nancy Boys Need Apply.


29 posted on 10/01/2015 12:46:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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Moving to mars and struggling against the natural obstacles on mars may one day be more liberating than living under an oppressive one world regulatory hell that Earth may one day become.


32 posted on 10/01/2015 12:54:44 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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Hard to take this author seriously. He writes of the difficulty obtaining oxygen while on Mars, dismissing the idea of living on Mars because of lack of oxygen. On the other hand, he writes:

Nine months is a long time for any group of people to be traveling in a small, closed, packed spacecraft.

Well, if a group of people survive nine months in a small spacecraft, then they have presumably solved the problem of obtaining breathable air. It should then be simpler to obtain breathable air while on Mars, what with all the raw resources available there. You can't carry enough oxygen on a spacecraft for a group of people for a nine month period; it must be created somehow.

33 posted on 10/01/2015 12:55:28 PM PDT by roadcat
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Richard Branson is already working on sending newlyweds to Mars for their honeymoons.

34 posted on 10/01/2015 12:56:15 PM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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Anything is possible to get away from liberals...


40 posted on 10/01/2015 1:07:16 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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There was the idea of vacations on Venus for important folks, but Mars will suffice.


47 posted on 10/01/2015 1:15:17 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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The biggest problem with settling Mars is that Mars has no magnetic field and we need a magnetic field for protection from cosmic rays and for as yet undiscovered biological requirements. We still do not understand how electromagnetism affects biology.


52 posted on 10/01/2015 1:22:57 PM PDT by captain_dave
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