Posted on 09/29/2015 7:24:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
There has been an impressive amount of angry liberal commentary, which has spilled over into the mainstream press coverage (or do I repeat myself?) of the issue, about how in the last Republican presidential debate Carly Fiorina allegedly cited an entirely imaginary video in order to make a crazy claim about Planned Parenthood’s brain-harvesting ghoulishness that’s totally unsupported by the facts. Here’s Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick, in a representative rant, attacking Fiorina’s “big fib,” the sheer “enormity” of which has shaken Lithwick’s faith in honesty in politics and journalism:
Nobodynot even Fiorinas staunchest defenderscan say that these videos that clearly dont exist are real. Even one of the most brazen defenders of the imaginary videos, Jonah Goldberg, opens with this concession to the petty, mewling fact-checkers: [T]hey have a point. The exact scene, exactly as Fiorina describes it, is not on the videos. (The article could felicitously end there, but Goldberg goes on to defend the statement under the theory that since [m]ost Americans are morally appalled by late-term abortions, Fiorina might as well supply them with pretend images to go with their preconceptions.)
Not even the most robust defenders of Fiorinas defense can say much more than that some of the images grafted onto the sound bite might not be completely false. And yet there is still no word from Fiorina, her campaign, or her super-PAC to indicate that she misspoke, or misremembered, or confused some other video with a video about Planned Parenthood. There seems to be no place in the middle for Fiorina to just put out a statement saying, Hey, I misspoke. Sorry.
(Excerpt) Read more at douthat.blogs.nytimes.com ...
No criminal investigation...how convenient. How high is the protection running?
“The result? The result you can see — most of the people who graduated in the 60’s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can’t get rid of to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society. “
-Yuri Bezmenov
Criminals run the government. Criminals run Planned Parenthood. PP is protected by the 'government'.
If only Carly had done what she dared Hillary and others to do! If only she hadn’t collected her facts slapdash and rushed to put out something that could only be fodder for her opposition, and ours.
Carly Fiorina is guilty of what so many journalists increasingly do in today’s media. They sling poorly researched and edited slop against the wall and hope it sticks. They do it because, sadly, many times, with the hurried news gathering habits of the public, it does.
There’s no excuse for this and nothing for her to do but apologize; both to those she dared to do something she herself didn’t do and to us for setting us back in the battle to defund a murderous organization.
Is Fiorina simply causing the general public to be confused?
Is this a way to seemingly delegitimize the videos and the issue in the eyes of the public?
Actually the liars are the NY Times. The forensic examination of the videos show they have not been doctored or altered in any way.
So what is your next lie to justify taxpayers being forced to fund the murder of babies for body parts NY Times?
No the ones who need to apologies is the NY Times for LYING about the “fabricated videos”.
Facts are the examination of the view shows no evidence of alteration. The videos are fact and the claims about them by the screaming heads in the Leftist media machine are lies.
The accusations about the videos are lies being desperately spun by a media machine desperate to justify the barbaric practices of PP.
7th Shocking Video Catches Planned Parenthood Harvesting Brain of Aborted Baby Who Was Still Alive
The headline is misleading, there is no video of the actual brain harvesting.
If I recall Carly did not say there was actually video of the harvesting of born-alive aborted baby's brain.
She referred to an ex-employee, Holly O'Donnell's, description of the brain harvesting of a born-alive baby.
I suppose if "prestigious" sources cy "falsification" long enough and insistently enough, it will be generally be felt to be true.
Plan Parenthood has been looking for some slip up and Carly gave it to them.
“The accusations about the videos are lies being desperately spun by a media machine desperate to justify the barbaric practices of PP.”
Absolutely yes.
They want no light shed on it.
LOL- they are relying on Slate.com for opinion??? my- how the NYSlimes continues to sink to new lows...
The Slimes is making a mountain out of a mole hill as usual when it suits their twisted liberal agenda.
They are a good argument for retroactive abortion or at least condoms and other birth control methods.
[[Actually the liars are the NY Times.]]
IF Fox news had ANY integrity, they would be hammering the fact that NYT LIED about this issue even after knowing about the forensic investigation finding now altering- Fox should hammer this home EVERY evening- all evening- until the public begin to realize that the NYT is NOT to be trusted!
If only Carly had done what she dared Hillary and others to do! If only she hadnt collected her facts slapdash and rushed to put out something that could only be fodder for her opposition, and ours.
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I don’t know what you’re talking about. Fiorina obviously did watch the video. She wouldn’t have known about the some of the details otherwise.
She simply wasn’t pendantic about what she saw. It’s hard to be lawyer-like pedantic when you
#1 Are remembering something that was traumatic,
#2 In a pressure-cooker situation of a presidential debate (which is traumatic in and of itself).
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Theres no excuse for this and nothing for her to do but apologize; both to those she dared to do something she herself didnt do and to us for setting us back in the battle to defund a murderous organization.
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Fiorina has absolutely nothing to apologize for. If anything, the current candidate field shows us that apologizing is the worst strategy possible and can sink a campaign faster than a simultaneous torpedo and kamikaze attack while heading for an iceberg.
If anything, this presents a wonderful opportunity if Carly were to adopt Trump tactics. She could double-down on the issue, telling anyone and everyone that she can access a copy of the video in question and that she will gladly, GLADLY, sit down in front of a camera with a news media personality and have that person point out exactly in the video where Carly lied.
Then when they turn her down, Carly declares them cowards (and losers, if she wants to truly emulate Trump).
I agree. She should have done all those things and not come out with a contrived video ad to further damage her credibility.
I never said the videos were altered. You and I are talking about completely different subjects. Fiorina intimated that she saw a baby, it’s heart beating on a table in the video. She did not. Because that scene was only described in graphic detail by one of the people in the video. If Fiorina had watched the videos in their entirety, as she “dared” others to do; she would have known that.
My problem with Fiorina isn’t her premise. I agree that the murderers at Planned Parenthood should be defunded and prosecuted. My problem with Fiorina is that she has given the opposition ammunition to attack that cause by putting forth a falsehood and then doubling down by creating another false, cobbled together video to support her first half truth. She should stop while she’s behind. You can bet that she will have to explain to the half baked Liberal media why she did that and it won’t be to our advantage.
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