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The Question No Candidate Will Answer [The responses to this question have never been persuasive]
National Review ^ | 09/21/2015 | Kevin Williamson

Posted on 09/21/2015 6:59:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I like Jake Tapper, but I already was ready to punch him in the ear over the “let’s you and him fight” structure of the debate questions last week when he abandoned all pretense of adulthood and asked the candidates what they’d like their Secret Service code names to be. It was a low, cringe-inducing moment, and the candidates made it lower and cringier with their answers. (“Trueheart”? “Justice Never Sleeps”? Ergh.) Marco Rubio just barely acquitted himself with “Gator,” but the correct answer was: “That’s a dumb question, Jake, and I am not going to answer it. Now, back to Iran . . .”

Here’s my question, which nobody ever really asks: “Given that a small number of federal expenditures — Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, national security, and interest on the debt — typically constitute about 80 percent of all federal spending, and given that we are not going to cut non-defense discretionary spending to zero, there is no mathematically plausible way to balance the budget without: 1) cutting spending on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and/or national security; and/or 2) raising taxes. So, what’s it going to be: spending cuts in popular programs, higher taxes, or deficits forever? And before you give your answer, I’d like you all to know that standing behind each of you is a man with a Taser and instructions to use it on the first person whose answer relies on the Growth Fairy — lookin’ at you, Jeb — or the Waste, Fraud, and Abuse Fairy. Go.”

I have had the opportunity to put that question privately to a fairly large number of Republican grandees, including some on that debate stage, and I have never received a truly persuasive answer. If any of the 2016 gang would like to provide one, I am sure that National Review would love to see it.

We conservatives, and the Republican elected officials who are, lest we forget, our only real channel of political action, play a game of double make-believe: They’re smart enough to know what the fiscal realities are, but they’re also smart enough to know that campaigning on those realities is a loser, and we understand their dilemma and don’t expect actual policies to look very much like campaign documents, anyway, so everybody ends up pretending that the choice is between competing non-viable budget plans rather than between wishful thinking and reality. My friend Larry Kudlow sometimes wincingly describes the realist school of budget-hawkery as the “eat your spinach” faction or the “root-canal guys,” and no doubt there is real political wisdom informing that view.

But Uncle Stupid desperately needs a root canal, and no amount of wishful thinking or happy talk about self-financing tax cuts is going to change that.

The Republican “establishment” — if we believe the rhetoric of the populist Right, it’s a strange sort of “establishment,” one that excludes any number of sitting senators and governors but includes a surprisingly large number of quondam theater critics who are not even members of the Republican party — is in bad odor right now, with the Trumpkin element and the talk-radio ranters and the rest of the circus-monkey Right up in arms, as they perpetually are, over a litany of betrayals and compromises, real and imaginary.

In reality, there is much to be said for the piecemeal, muddle-through approach of congressional Republicans, who have a majority in both houses but not a large enough one to override a presidential veto, which makes inaction their greatest power. In 2011 the Obama-Pelosi-Reid model of government had federal spending up to nearly a quarter of GDP, a level of federal spending more typically associated with 1942 or 1946, when Uncle Sam was engaged in some rather more serious business than subsidizing cowboy-poetry festivals in Harry Reid’s backyard. After the Republican takeover, that figure went below 20 percent of GDP, which is still a great deal higher than is ideal but is within spitting distance of the average federal tax haul. That means that we have a plausible path to a situation in which federal spending is too high but the budget is balanced, rather than a situation in which federal spending is too high and there are persistent deficits. Neither is ideal, but one is better than the other, and responsible adults cannot ignore that.

That spending reduction (a reduction in GDP terms) has been driven mainly by the sequester, the one successful policy of recent vintage and, therefore, the one policy that everybody hates. Jeb Bush criticized the sequester in the most recent debate, complaining that it prevents spending, which is, of course, what it is there to do. But valuable as the sequester is, it isn’t enough.

#share#Chris Christie has proposed a fairly straightforward policy of means-testing Social Security — reducing benefits when a retired individual’s non–Social Security income surpasses $80,000 a year and zeroing it out at the $200,000-a-year mark. (Jeb Bush has pronounced himself open to means-testing, too.) That isn’t going to balance the budget — it isn’t even going to bring the entitlements ledger into balance — but it would be a meaningful, significant step in the right direction. A broad and deep program of entitlement reform would be a national game-changer, a radical improvement in the credibility of our public finances. Of course, the populist Right, which is in the end barely distinguishable from the populist Left, detests Social Security reform, because it is in reality another welfare-state interest group, one that has convinced itself that all that extravagant New Deal and Great Society statism would be just peachy if it weren’t for all the damned dirty foreigners.

Rand Paul is at heart a fiscal realist, one who insists that we must “cut spending in all areas,” though he has gone wobbly on military outlays. And if you read between the stump-speech lines with the right eyes, you can detect a healthy strain of realism in Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, and Scott Walker, with the governors being predictably a bit more hardheaded than the senators. In contrast, Donald Trump is a disconnected fantasist; Mike Huckabee is a content-free populist; neither Ben Carson nor Carly Fiorina has said enough of substance on the subject to make much of a judgment, though Fiorina has some solid plans on spending a great deal of money we don’t have in order to build up the military; John Kasich had a good record on the issue in Congress but thus far in the presidential race refuses to talk about anything other than tax cuts; Jeb Bush is waiting on a bailout from the Growth Fairy.

It’s not that economic growth isn’t important; it’s that there is no magical incantation by which a president may bring it about. Barack Obama surely wishes that the economy were growing more quickly than it is, too, the last four quarters averaging an anemic 2.67 percent real growth; in the first quarter of 2014, the economy actually contracted, threatening a return to outright recession. Better economic policies should produce better growth, but that’s a crooked line, and the timeline is unpredictable.

I don’t expect the GOP contenders to campaign on pain, but I do expect them to sail close enough to the shores of reality that dry land is always within sight. Instead, the temptation is to proceed as though we can have massively expanded military spending, tax cuts, no unpopular entitlement reductions, and a balanced budget.

The Republican who sails under that flag will deserve a very special code name, one that is unprintable in this space.

— Kevin D. Williamson is roving correspondent at National Review.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budget; debt; nro; socialsecurity; welfare

1 posted on 09/21/2015 6:59:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
when he abandoned all pretense of adulthood

Thank God someone is finally pointing out the truth. I was ready to puke last week hearing all the Establishment pundits fawning all over Tapper as "a Journalists Journalist". Maybe he is given how pathetic the standards of conduct now are in that industry.

2 posted on 09/21/2015 7:05:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SeekAndFind
One of the talkshow hosts (maybe Rush) said that 44% of the questions asked at the CNN debate had ‘Trump’ in the question.

The CNN debate, like the FoxNews debate, was little more than a hit squad with Trump as the target.

Much to their chagrin, however, Trump still is ahead. Yeah, Fiorina got a bump, but that will only be temporary. As one CNN commentator said, ‘she needs to learn how to smile.’ Had one of the candidates said that, it would have caused a new feigned uproar.


3 posted on 09/21/2015 7:11:12 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

I missed the Secret Service code name question. Stupid question and stupid answers.


4 posted on 09/21/2015 7:11:41 AM PDT by sockhead
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To: SeekAndFind

Unless the penny cut in every expenditure was a falsehood or out right lie why not Institute that or make it a nickel?


5 posted on 09/21/2015 7:12:51 AM PDT by onyx
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To: SeekAndFind

Author has a very valid point. The candidates, however, know that Medicare and Social Security are a super-third-rail that the American people refuse to think about rationally. (FReepers generally excepted). Trump’s idea of a means test for SS allotments is at least an honest attempt at reform—however ill informed. I would, in fact, posit that Trump is the ONLY candidate who could propose cutting Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid without immediately losing 60% of his support.

(Caveat: I’m not a fan of Trump.)


6 posted on 09/21/2015 7:14:42 AM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: SeekAndFind
I like Jake Tapper...

This month, he has destroyed any cred he had built.

Sarah, are you trusting in THIS Jake Tapper NOW?
7 posted on 09/21/2015 7:16:14 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: SeekAndFind

Libs love minutiae, it keeps the discussion away from the issues.

Squirrel!


8 posted on 09/21/2015 7:26:15 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think what needs to be considered when talking about cutting Social Security benefits is to look at all the different facets of Social Security benefits.

For instance, immigrants who do not speak English, can receive SSI and Social Security disability. This can be stopped. In fact, legal immigrants have to sign a document that they will not apply for any welfare benefits. There are others, but this is what came to mind.

I do not think cutting Social Security benefits for those who paid in during their working years should have their benefits reduced or totally confiscated.


9 posted on 09/21/2015 7:26:44 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: SeekAndFind
"So, what’s it going to be: spending cuts in popular programs, higher taxes, or deficits forever?"

At this point we all know what it's going to be, regardless of which party is in power: Tax increases, even higher spending increases and deficits for forever and by forever I mean until the bottom falls out of the whole thing. The only question is when not if the collapse will occur. History has never seen as powerful an economic engine as America so we have no benchmark to measure how long an economy this big can keep going purely on inertia before it grinds to a halt and implodes. It could take another 10 years or it could happen next month.

10 posted on 09/21/2015 7:30:50 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

No one answers it persuasively because the real answer is not the political answer and a politician cannot square the circle on this one.

The real answer is, of course;

Eliminate welfare. Period. Don’t “reform” it. Eliminate it. It solves the fiscal problems, and as a nice byproduct, in the long run it would eliminate a whole host of social problems once we stopped subsidizing them.


11 posted on 09/21/2015 7:32:04 AM PDT by henkster (Liberals forget Dickens' kids forged an Empire on which the sun never set.)
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To: TomGuy
"One of the talkshow hosts (maybe Rush) said that 44% of the questions asked at the CNN debate had ‘Trump’ in the question."

And the questions were totally petty, along the lines of "Trump called you a do-do head. Are you really a do-do head?

12 posted on 09/21/2015 7:32:35 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: henkster

You win the Internet, a Guinness, and a kitten.


13 posted on 09/21/2015 7:37:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I want to live my cat's life.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re scared of “throw granny in the wheelchair off the cliff” commercials.

I hate how the GOP eats their young. Ryan’s plan was a good starting point.

Here’s what I propose:

1) Lower taxes across the board and get the economy roaring
2) Get the illegals out of entitlements
3) Cut regulations by at least 10%. Every federal agency must figure out what means the most for them.
4) Repeal Obamacare & enact tort reform
5) Boomers keep their benefits but starting with people currently 45 and under, they can put a portion of SS & Medicare money into private accounts (IRA & HSA). We’ll pay for our parents but that’s it.


14 posted on 09/21/2015 7:46:01 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: henkster
Unfortunately, even those on 'our side' begin the debate losing, by accepting the premise of the arguement

The question is incomplete. Factually stated: "Given that a small number of illegal/unconstitutional federal expenditures...

I presume you're talking ALL 'welfare' (SS/Medicare/Sect 8/etc)...and I agree.
15 posted on 09/21/2015 7:51:07 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump did have a few things to say in his 2011 book about these issues that Kevin Williamson brings up. Of course, the esteemed Kevin Williamson would never lower himself to read the book of a 'disconnected fantasist' like Donald Trump.

Hey Willamson! Where'd you learn your trade? You've really revealed yourself for what you truly believe. You don't want an answer to your question, because you've thought yourself into a box and can't see your way out of it. You're a pathetic loser, Williamson. If you want to throw your hands up and give up on something, how about doing that with your lame ass writing 'career' rather than with the problems that face this nation?


16 posted on 09/21/2015 7:53:49 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: SeekAndFind

“I like Jake Tapper, but I already was ready to punch him in the ear over the “let’s you and him fight” structure of the debate questions”

Don’t punch him in the ear.

Hit him just behind (and at the lowest part behind the ear)

and you’ll knock him cold.

Joe Louis did that over and over with a left hook.


17 posted on 09/21/2015 8:21:07 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: TomGuy
As one CNN commentator said, ‘she needs to learn how to smile.’ Had one of the candidates said that, it would have caused a new feigned uproar.

Yes, her face looks like she is sucking on a lemon all the time, even in repose. I think she may think that if she looks pissed all the time, it will make her look serious instead of just pissed.

18 posted on 09/21/2015 9:04:55 AM PDT by Sal
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...given that we are not going to cut non-defense discretionary spending to zero, there is no mathematically plausible way to balance the budget without: 1) cutting spending on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and/or national security; and/or 2) raising taxes. So, what's it going to be: spending cuts in popular programs, higher taxes, or deficits forever? And before you give your answer, I'd like you all to know that standing behind each of you is a man with a Taser and instructions to use it on the first person whose answer relies on the Growth Fairy -- lookin' at you, Jeb -- or the Waste, Fraud, and Abuse Fairy. Go.
Obviously the premise that given that we are not going to cut non-defense discretionary spending to zero is flawed means, axegrinding. There aren't going to be balanced budgets for years to come, it's not going to happen all in one go. IOW, the op-ed writer's full of it.


19 posted on 09/21/2015 9:25:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: SeekAndFind
standing behind each of you is a man with a Taser and instructions to use it on the first person whose answer relies on the Growth Fairy — lookin’ at you, Jeb — or the Waste, Fraud, and Abuse Fairy. Go.”
"The Waste, Fraud, and Abuse Fairy” is indeed a chimera. But “the growth fairy,” not so much. Tax rates are prices. If legitimate income costs too much - in terms of risk, worry, and taxes - legitimate, reported income - and tax revenue - will be low. And vice versa. Slashing tax rates - the capital gains tax rate first of all - is good business just as surely as putting finite prices on products in stores is mandatory.

20 posted on 09/21/2015 3:53:22 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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