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The Fall of Scott Walker
am thinker ^ | 9/21/15 | e straker

Posted on 09/21/2015 5:06:00 AM PDT by bestintxas

The new CNN poll has Scott Walker polling at less than one half of one percent, or effectively zero. Statistically speaking, no one supports Scott Walker, not his campaign staff, not his family, not even himself. He is the epitome of zero, zilch, nada.

It is expected that he will soon discover a burning need to spend more time on governing Wisconsin, or to be with his family, or perhaps spend quality time with his motorcycle. But before he goes, what are some lessons from his fall?

1) Busting public unions is good, but it doesn't make you into a conservative superhero. Chris Christie knocked some union heads together too, but I don't think President Obama's best New Jersey man-friend would be called a conservative by anyone.

2) It's ok to flip-flop, but not as frequently as Flipper. Almost everyone (except Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush) has changed positions in this race. Donald Trump used to be a raging liberal (and perhaps he still is). But even Trump, once changing his position, didn't go back and forth and back and forth several times within the space of a few days. Scott Walker had three different positions (count them -- three) on birthright citizenship alone in a week's time. He quickly became known as being squishy on immigration.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016gopprimary; 2016polls; election2016; scottbot; scottbots; scottwalker; walker; walker2016; wisconsin
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love the characterization of him during debate: "Mostly, he was a potted plant."

Forcefulness is what is driving the polls as Americans want somebody who stands for something and exhibits leadership to pursue it. Walker looks like a limp version of Boehner and McConnell

1 posted on 09/21/2015 5:06:00 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas
If Walker was really so awful, why were there "freepers" here cutting down every chance they got? Wouldn't he just collapse on his own?

It's funny how much more vociferous they are bashing Walker than the actual big government RINOs.

2 posted on 09/21/2015 5:10:31 AM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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To: bestintxas

He’s a nice enough guy, but I just don’t see him in the top spot.


3 posted on 09/21/2015 5:11:27 AM PDT by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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To: bestintxas

Walker showed us that he is a lightweight who is in way over his head in this presidential race.

Maybe he’s good for Wisconsin. I don’t know. But on the national stage, he’s awful. After much initial promise and hype, this is quite possibly the most inept presidential campaign in the history of U.S. Politics.


4 posted on 09/21/2015 5:13:25 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things done with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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To: palmer

“{If Walker was really so awful, why were there “freepers” here cutting down every chance they got?”

There were but my criticism of him were not nuclear-tipped like my full arsenal annihilation for carly, Jeb, Carson and obviously, obamatard. probably respect for C Wife for sticking up for him..


5 posted on 09/21/2015 5:15:33 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: palmer

Brad Dayspring was what bothered me the most. The Walker-supporter answer, Walker didn’t hire him and can’t fire him misses the point. In the end, I got tired of explaining the point, and don’t plan to reiterate it Yet Again here. I will only note that it is amazing that neither Walker nor any of his supporters could figure the point/problem/issue out on their own.


6 posted on 09/21/2015 5:18:19 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: bestintxas

I think Walker was hurt by two things.

First. His association with the establishment. You can’t have people like Brad Dayspring and George Will’s wife leading your campaign while claiming to be an outsider and wanting to “shake up the status quo.” Comes off as so hypocritical.

Secondly. His personality is blah and vanilla. Which becomes more of a deficit with Trump in the race who’s like a hurricane.

Good governor. Did great things with the unions. But has little stage presence or gravitas. Simply doesn’t look presidential. But he’s young and will run again, I’m sure.


7 posted on 09/21/2015 5:19:57 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Cruz 2016 - Blow Up The GOP)
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To: bestintxas

This is kind of sad. I really liked Walker. I would prefer him over Rubio, Bush, and Forina any day of the week.


8 posted on 09/21/2015 5:21:32 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR)
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To: palmer
If Walker was really so awful, why were there "freepers" here cutting down every chance they got? Wouldn't he just collapse on his own?

I think Walker would be a very good to great president at a time when that's what we need. Unfortunately, he's not very impressive on the campaign trail or in the debates. I hope he will start campaigning for Cruz or at least endorse, but I don't see him regaining his lost popularity, not with the campaign he's running this year.

I'd love to see him try again, with a better-organized campaign, when President Cruz leaves office in 2024.

9 posted on 09/21/2015 5:21:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: bestintxas

Initially, I was favorably disposed toward Walker given his handling of the unions in Wisconsin and the fact that he didn’t back down.

When he started listening to his “advisers” and became a typical weather-vane politician, I lost interest quick.


10 posted on 09/21/2015 5:21:57 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: bestintxas

I love Scott Walkers politics. His problem is that he has always been in Wisconsin politics and his personality is great for Wisconsin. But not so good nationally especially when you have the brassy Donald Trump out there this year.

If Trump had run in 2012 he would have buried Mitt Romney


11 posted on 09/21/2015 5:26:25 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: palmer

>> If Walker was really so awful, why were there “freepers” here cutting down every chance they got?

Methinks you’re hypersensitive. I have not observed this. What I HAVE observed is pushback on Scott Walker rah-rah.

Personally, as a Cruz supporter, if Walker were viable, he would be acceptable to me. I harbor no dislike for the man or his conservatism. Rather I would say I am “disappointed” in him.

But it’s past time to clear the decks of the “two-percenters”. They are getting in the way of better, more viable candidates.


12 posted on 09/21/2015 5:27:52 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: palmer

“If Walker was really so awful, why were there “freepers” here cutting down every chance they got? Wouldn’t he just collapse on his own? “

?Did you read the article?

His polling numbers are so low, they are virtually immeasurable.

IT is not FR who are making this poll, Friend.


13 posted on 09/21/2015 5:27:53 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: bestintxas

I think folks are way over thinking this.

Its a very large field. Trump is sucking up most of the oxygen. Other candidates have very loyal followings Cruz, Huckabee, Carson) or better inherent ability to raise money (Bush).

Walker is simply being crowded out. It’s neither due to him being good or bad, it’s just someone has to be crowded out in this environment and while Walker is probably the most well-rounded candidate in the field, he doesn’t have the niche appeal that will keep other candidates afloat until whatever happens with Trump happens.


14 posted on 09/21/2015 5:29:00 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: palmer

It’s one poll out of many that will happen between now and February.


15 posted on 09/21/2015 5:29:55 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: bestintxas

Well, with 16 candidates in the running, *somebody* is going to have to be running on empty. If he doesn’t make himself stand out, then yeah, he’s going to disappear.

Maybe he’ll take Jindal and a few other of the nobodies with him.


16 posted on 09/21/2015 5:37:02 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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Perry is already out as he had a lot more forcefulness than Walker, but happened to have Trump taking his supporters.


17 posted on 09/21/2015 5:38:30 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: bestintxas

Walker’s not my candidate, but he is IMO preferable to Rubio—who is going to get pushed more and more as a “consensus candidate”—and about two-thirds of the field. (Yes, ahead of Carly and Ben.)


18 posted on 09/21/2015 5:43:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nhwingut
First. His association with the establishment. You can’t have people like Brad Dayspring and George Will’s wife leading your campaign while claiming to be an outsider and wanting to “shake up the status quo.” Comes off as so hypocritical.

Secondly. His personality is blah and vanilla. Which becomes more of a deficit with Trump in the race who’s like a hurricane.

Agree. He chose advisors badly and then took their bad advice and went all wobbly. He came in touted as a fighter but doesn't present as a fighter, especially as compared to Trump.

19 posted on 09/21/2015 5:45:02 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: bestintxas

Well, if Perry couldn’t compete, then he couldn’t compete. Survival of the fittest, and all that, eh?


20 posted on 09/21/2015 5:45:35 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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