Senate Dems Plot Filibuster to Dodge Iran Nuclear Deal Vote

Frontpagemagazine.com ^ | September 1, 2015 | Joseph Klein

[Mike Darancette]

The deal was that the Senate would get a vote on the nuclear arrangement. No vote, no deal and treat it like a treaty.

[SJackson]

It's not a treaty, despite quacking and waddling like one. The President calls it a nonbinding agreement. One of the few honest statements he's made. A treaty requires a 2/3 vote because once ratified it becomes US law, unless we withdraw. Nonbinding and agreement mean just that. The President, Barak Hussein Obama, is making a deal which from the start doesn't bind him, Congress, the Courts anyone, to anything. Future Presidents are bound to nothing. So it's a worthless piece of paper. The UN sanctions are off, that's real and the responsibility of the President, so Iran won. Kicked our infidel butts. It's only value is the cover it gives Obama to not enforce any sanctions Congress might pass, or to use the many tools we might have to punish Iran or others trading with them. Which he wasn't going to do anyway. I agree it's a treaty by any logical interpretation, but it doesn't matter, he was always going to free Iran at the UN, and he's not going to do anything about Iran. It's a lawless administration, and the solution is a Republican President.

[SJackson]

See 22, should have pinged you. Not a treaty, no force of law. And without it, Hussein would not have vetoed an attempt to eliminate the sanctions. Nor will he do anything to punish Iran or those who trade with them. It waits for a new administration, the terrorists won this one big time.

[SJackson]

This is all theater. Kerry took the “deal” to the UN and signed it. It is a done deal no matter what the Senate does. Iran will get 150 billion to fund killing Americans and Israels.

Exactly, a reality show on CNN and FOX instead of HBO. Reality in that as you suggest, people will die. Hopefully few Americans, I suspect our citizens will react before that becomes a reality. Israelis, sure. They'll defend themselves. First targets, Christians and non radical Muslims. Kurds, Druze, an assortment of non-twelvers.

[SJackson]

The fact that neither Corker nor McConnell apparently demanded an up-or-down vote on this deal is indefensible.

They were busy, probably doing lunch. There are reasons that in what should be a Republican year, the GOP leaders are Trump and Carson.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

....Senator McConnell responded to Reid’s initiative against the use of filibusters in connection with nominations this way: "Some of us have been here long enough to know the shoe is sometimes on the other foot. You'll regret this, and you may regret it a lot sooner than you think." ...

I bet Reid is skeerd. That is what McTurtle said about the nuclear option. We all saw that blow back...NOT

[SJackson]

This abdication of the Senate’s constitutional duties was made possible in part by every Republican Senator running for President (they all voted for the Corker atrocity).

Another reason I prefer the Governors. From the upper Midwest, that is. There are two.

[jwalsh07]

Corker should be right next to McConnell in the stocks with the signs Obama’s bitch hanging from their necks.

[semimojo]

Democratic senators supporting President Obama’s disastrous nuclear deal with Iran are cowards. They know that a majority of Americans oppose the deal. Thus, they are running for cover to avoid going on the record and voting against a resolution disapproving the deal. A filibuster to block a vote on the merits altogether is the Democratic Senate caucus’s preferred way out.

OK, the Dems are cowards. What about the 53 Republican Senators who set this up? This is all about being able to rail against the deal and vote "no" without having to actually deal with the ramifications of the deal failing.

This is textbook accountability avoidance by everyone while still being able to talk tough. The most basic political charade.

[SJackson]

Political opportunists. I fear as this “agreement” plays out there will be little honor for those who didn’t fight it from the beginning. There are Republicans without honor.

[SJackson]

Yes. And what possible reason was there for Corker to establish a temporary new non-treaty pseudo-treaty. It has no standing under law, though there are Republicans that wouldn’t trouble. Barak, negotiate what you want, present it to the Senate. Not sure why that doesn’t work. This is all deferred to a new administration. Of course the rest of the world doesn’t recognize that deferral.

[SJackson]

The next election may offer a rejection of Obama’s policies but it will not favor sitting republicans. The entire class, dem and pub, needs to be turned out in this next election.

Incumbents usually win. Republicans too. They have to be defeated in primaries.

[Political Junkie Too]

McConnell should go nuclear for the sole reason that if he doesn’t Iran will.

Going nuclear should be McConnell declaring it a treaty and abandon the Corker bill, then proceed with a treaty vote. The Corker bill has been violated in so many ways already.

The treaty clause in Article VI is still supreme law of the land, and McConnell can just declare the Corker bill to be nullified and that he is going to follow Article II Section 2.

Article II Section 2 gives the Senate the power to ratify treaties. Separation of powers gives the Senate in "advice and consent" the power to declare on its own authority what is and isn't a treaty. That's what "advice" means.

McConnell should say that it is the advice of the Senate that this is a treaty after all, and just proceed as such.

-PJ

[SunkenCiv]

They don't want to be seen voting in favor of this atrocity. Thanks SJackson.

[Mr Apple]

obama, all the Senate democrats, corker and mcconnell are all committing treason and are ****** up!