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Appeals court rules two bikers were jailed with sufficient probable cause.
Waco Tribune ^ | 8/21/2015 | OLIVIA MESSER

Posted on 08/21/2015 4:42:00 PM PDT by mac_truck

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To: Cboldt

Thanks for the summary.


21 posted on 08/22/2015 5:34:29 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH
-- Weathers said as much in his bond reduction hearing -- that he ran over as soon as the Bandido President was "disrespected" and joined in the fisticuffs. --

FN2 ... But because our review is limited to the four corners of the affidavit, we cannot consider the testimony of Weathers in either appeal. Nelson v. State, No. 07-02-00527, 2004 WL 1947809, at *1 (Tex. App.--Amarillo Sept. 2, 2004, pet. ref'd) (not designated for publication).

22 posted on 08/22/2015 5:43:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TexasGator
The parent Confederation of the Texas Confederation that hosted the ‘meeting’ said that the Cossacks started it.

A lawyer in California said that the day after things happened (and how would he know?--- he wasn't there) but a few days later, I assume after receiving more complete information, corrected himself, and said he didn't know who started it.

Which leaves this so-called 'parent organization' having made re-statement which leaves your here statement to be inaccurate. Are you always this dishonest?

There you go, (there you went, as you have from the beginning, and all along) first playing one side, then the other, then playing both ends against the middle.

Give it up.

There are other ways to assert that uniformed police, at the least, were not the most primary initiators.

23 posted on 08/22/2015 6:03:18 AM PDT by BlueDragon (Cosmophobia. I gots it)
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To: TexasGator

LOL!

Clown.


24 posted on 08/22/2015 6:21:46 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: Cboldt
...given the option of "examining trial or have your bail conditions relaxed,"

The biker who struck that deal was a Waco resident.

I'm not sure the option for relaxed bail conditions will be on the table for defendants going forward, especially if they are not locals.

25 posted on 08/22/2015 6:27:41 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
More than one biker has had bail conditions relaxed. Clendennen is not the only one.

Judge rules Twin Peaks biker, wife jailed with sufficient probable cause - WacoTrib - August 17, 2015

See reports (in that linked article) relating to Cody Ledbetter. I understand his home is also in Waco.

If the option for relaxed bail conditions isn't available, it reduces the enticement to forego the examining trial.

26 posted on 08/22/2015 6:46:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

I’ve seen no reports that Clendennen got relaxed bail conditions in exchange for withdrawing his request for an examination trial. Where did you get that notion?


27 posted on 08/22/2015 7:05:57 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Radiolegendary.

Twin Peaks lawyer walks away from examining trial for bond changes - August 10

The attorney for Matthew Clendennen, a Twin Peaks defendant who was scheduled for an examining trail today, Monday, August 10, agreed to waive his client's right to the pre-trial procedure in exchange for sweeping changes to his conditions of bond.

Houston lawyer cuts losses in biker pre-trial - August 17

When Cossack Motorcyle Club member Cody Ledbetter appeared a half-hour early for his examining trial before retired Visiting Judge James Morgan Monday afternoon, August 17, he was surprised to learn the issue of enough probable cause to bind him over for a Grand Jury appearance was already settled.

Paul Looney, a seasoned defense attorney with offices in Houston and Hempstead, told him, "You lose the ankle bracelet, you lose the curfew, and you lose the travel restrictions."

Twin Peaks bikers bow out of examining trials, get bond modifications - August 19

Prosecutors are establishing a pattern of give and take in the Twin Peaks cases stemming from a deadly shootout that occurred here on May 17.

Two key defendants out of the 177 charged with engaging in organized criminal activity chose to waive their right to a pre-indictment examining trial today. Both received modification of their bond conditions in an agreement with the DA's office.

Neither retired Visiting Judge James Morgan, nor prosecutors would reveal the terms of the new bond conditions ordered in the cases of Daniel Pesina, who was still jailed as of Wednesday, August 19, or John R. Wilson, President of the Waco Chapter of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club and proprietor of Legend Cycles, 6514 Interstate 35 South.


28 posted on 08/22/2015 7:23:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Radiolegendary

There is nothing about this deal on Waco Biker Justice the website run by Clendennen's lawyer.

Any reason why we should take an unsourced blogsite like Radiolegendary at its word?

29 posted on 08/22/2015 8:01:30 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Cboldt
thx
30 posted on 08/22/2015 8:28:36 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Cboldt

“Two key defendants” being Pesina, still in jail, and Waco Cossack President Wilson.

(Pesina has a slew of other previous charges in addition)

Wondering why these two are termed “key defendants”?


31 posted on 08/22/2015 8:35:48 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH
-- Wondering why these two are termed "key defendants"? --

Spices up the story. Make this story a key story! About a key accused! Literary Mon-KEY business.

32 posted on 08/22/2015 8:52:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: mac_truck
-- Any reason why we should take an unsourced blogsite like Radiolegendary at its word? --

That Broden withdrew Clendennen's request for examining trial was reported at Judge rules Twin Peaks biker, wife jailed with sufficient probable cause - WacoTrib - August 17, 2015

Broden withdrew his request for an examining trial on Clendennen's behalf last week.

That fact also does not appear at wacobikerjustice.com.

That said, we all give whatever weight we choose, to whatever report we read.

33 posted on 08/22/2015 10:01:38 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: BlueDragon

“A lawyer in California said that the day after things happened (and how would he know?-— he wasn’t there) but a few days later, I assume after receiving more complete information, corrected himself, and said he didn’t know who started it.

Which leaves this so-called ‘parent organization’ having made re-statement which leaves your here statement to be inaccurate. Are you always this dishonest?”

Are YOU always this honest? The statement is STILL on their website.


34 posted on 08/22/2015 10:52:18 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
Are YOU always this honest?

If you only knew me, then yeah, you would know that I'm known for being honest. I may not always be right about everything, but I don't casually tell lies for convenience of argument, or pride, or to avoid needing to face having been previously mistaken, etc.

The statement is STILL on their website.

And so is the corrective followup statement, where from the same organization, the same guy says "we don't know who started it".

Yet here you are, having known of that, but cherry-picked just the one preliminary note, written by a lawyer in California who wasn't in Waco, as if the info was authoritative.

Why must you always misrepresent things?

Truth is not in you, obviously.

Is it so hard to admit, that yes, the very same source, a few days later, wrote up something of a correction?

At least they didn't write that the police started the shooting. I don't know why that's not enough for you to back off from trying to sell the idea that it was Cossacks that "started it", unless its part of the ongoing playing both ends against the middle you have been indulging yourself in.

35 posted on 08/22/2015 1:05:10 PM PDT by BlueDragon (Cosmophobia. I gots it)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

I did some digging and “Radiolegendary” is just some local guy named Jim Parks who likes to write his own unsourced “news” and post it on the internet.

He has a geographic proximity to the story and that’s about it.


36 posted on 08/22/2015 1:06:30 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: BlueDragon

Look at Reginald Weathers’ testimony at his bond reduction hearing.


37 posted on 08/22/2015 1:39:46 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: BlueDragon

Look at Reginald Weathers’ testimony at his bond reduction hearing.


38 posted on 08/22/2015 1:39:46 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: mac_truck
What do you mean by "unsourced?" Not that Mr. Parks directly says as much in his written materials, but clearly implied is that his source is written materials filed at the 54th District Court.

Are you saying that his reports are false?

39 posted on 08/22/2015 2:58:16 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: AMDG&BVMH; TexasGator
Look at Reginald Weathers’ testimony at his bond reduction hearing.

Or any of the police affidavits in the vehicle seizure records, they make interesting reading too.

40 posted on 08/22/2015 6:15:56 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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