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My Q&A with Scott Walker
The National Review ^ | August 21, 2015 | Quin Hillyer

Posted on 08/21/2015 3:53:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

It’s safe to say that most conservatives across the country think pretty highly of Wisconsin governor Scott Walker and that he remains one of the few presidential candidates who are at least broadly acceptable to almost every sub-species of Republican. It’s not hard to find Wisconsinites who will wax rhapsodic about Walker’s job performance as well as how friendly and engaging he is.

Yet in the wake of Donald Trump’s bluster, Walker’s quieter but battle-tested toughness and policy successes have seemed to fade a bit from view.

In response, Walker hasn’t tried so much to match Trump’s glitz as to double down on his own considerable substance, issuing a health-care reform plan this week that earned almost universal praise on the right — including from National Review’s Yuval Levin, who called it “the most substantively and politically serious conservative health-care reform we have yet seen from a presidential candidate.”

In my 15-minute private phone interview with Walker on Thursday, I figured that his new health-care proposal should be the obvious starting point. Rather than filter the interview through my impressions, I’ll just present the highlights of the Q&A directly.

Quin Hillyer: You issued a health-care proposal this week. In as concise a way as possible, within 30 seconds if you can, what are you trying to accomplish, and how is it different from any other plan?

Scott Walker: Two parts: It’s repealing Obamacare once and for all, but doing it in a way that lights a fire under Congress to do it immediately. And it puts patients and families in control of their own health care. That’s why we call it “patient freedom.”

Hillyer: Okay, even among those who have praised your plan, two specific questions have come up. The first is, How much will it cost? And how will it be paid for?

Walker: There are two parts for us, for paying for it. The last thing you want to do is add to the debt-and-deficit problem. Repealing it gets rid of a trillion dollars in new taxes and provides a little tax cut on top of that, effectively, so it’s one of the biggest pro-growth tax cuts since Reagan. But to pay for it, one part is Medicaid: We’re returning that to the states, and that clearly will be more effective and more efficient. . . . And by giving states control over that, it takes away one of the biggest distortions of Medicaid right now, which is that under the current system, the more a state spends, the more money it gets. So there’s a perverse incentive to spend money even if you don’t need it. This plan takes that away.

And then the other part is to work with Congress on reforming the way the tax code treats the gold-plated employer health-care plans, like the ones unions give only to their executives. . . . We put a cap on the tax deduction for those.

Hillyer: The second question is one that Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal has challenged you to a debate on, because he criticizes your plan as a “new entitlement.” What do you say to that?

Walker: The overwhelming response from conservatives has been positive, because that’s just not accurate. We get rid of the mandate; we get rid of the requirement that people have to have health insurance; we get rid of the government’s role in it and instead give people the freedom. We don’t do it by income and don’t dictate that they have to have it. It’s all about freedom, the freedom to spend their money if they see fit. Republicans like Ronald Reagan and many others of us have always said that giving people more of their own money back is a good thing.

Hillyer: My wife wisely says this: The way most ordinary Americans experience the federal government is through contact with low- and mid-level federal workers and with the regulations they promulgate and enforce. Federal employees enjoy extraordinary job protections. And they tend, overwhelmingly, to be liberal. How do you propose to get the federal bureaucracy and regulatory system under control?

Walker: A couple of different ways. One of the biggest things is to take major portions of the federal government and give them to the states: transportation, infrastructure, environmental protection, education. To me, taking those dollars and those responsibilities and sending it to the states is [very important]. The states are where it’s more effective and efficient and definitely more accountable. People can look the government workers in the face in those states, as opposed to a bunch of bureaucrats in Washington. This would be a huge change, outlasting my time in Washington — a fundamental reform.

Then, for those programs and agencies that are left in the federal government, we need reforms there as well, making changes in the civil service and public-employee practices to hold people accountable.

Hillyer: Do you have any other big domestic reforms coming up any time soon? Food stamps or other welfare programs, or Medicare, or . . . ?

Walker: Our strength is that every couple of weeks we’re going to release specific plans on domestic, economic, and fiscal policy, and also national defense and foreign policy. We’ll lay out solutions, big bold plans, and we’ve got the capacity to act on them. Look at my record. I took on my own party’s establishment, took on unions, took on special interests to do what was right for my state, and now will do the same for all Americans.

Hillyer: Okay, of all of those subject areas where you will lay out specific plans, which one will you address next?

Walker: National defense, in particular.

Hillyer: If you can’t say Reagan — so, other than Reagan — who was or is your political or government hero, and why?

Walker: I love Lincoln and Washington. I love Washington because he ultimately did what was best for his country, not for himself. He could have been king, but he wasn’t. He could have been president for life, but he wasn’t. He wasn’t just the first president, but the one of the best. He set the expectation for presidents going forward.

Hillyer: It looks like I have one minute left. Last question, real quick: My wife’s in human resources. She asks about the new overtime rule from the National Labor Relations Board, where if your salary is under $50K, you must be paid overtime if you work late.

Walker [sounding eager to take this on]: The president announced this rule in Lacrosse, Wis., and took a jab at me when he did it. But I’d rather go in the other direction, the direction of greater flexibility, to allow “comp time” instead of overtime — if the employee wants it. For a lot of working parents, they would prefer to take their overtime for comp time [rather than get paid time-and-a-half but work more hours], maybe to use it for their kids and family. I’d like to see those changes, but with greater flexibility not only for small-business owners but for their employees. We need to get rid of this big-government mindset that this administration has had, that Hillary Clinton has, too. We want to make it easier to increase jobs and increase wages.

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So there you have it, Walker unfiltered.

My impressions? Walker sounded hoarse, but sharp and sure, firm and decisive. He sounds like somebody who doesn’t just mouth platitudes while leaving policy to aides. His tone was decisive, his level of detail significant and well calibrated to a 15-minute phone interview.

This is the deepest presidential field of conservative talent in decades. Walker is one of those who give the field its solid, conservative heft.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; election2016; gopprimary; scottwalker; walker; wisconsin
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1 posted on 08/21/2015 3:53:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I love Washington because he ultimately did what was best for his country, not for himself. He could have been king, but he wasn’t.

Good answer.
2 posted on 08/21/2015 3:56:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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Aug 19, 2015 PPP North Carolina Poll:

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Scott Walker - 44

Hillary Clinton - 41

Not Sure - 15

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Scott Walker - 50

Donald Trump - 43

Not Sure - 6

3 posted on 08/21/2015 4:01:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Does it really surprise you that North Carolina would go for the Republican over the Democrat?


4 posted on 08/21/2015 4:03:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This will change once they really start campaigning in some of these states.


5 posted on 08/21/2015 4:07:06 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve never lived in a state with an efficient government. I thought the idea was to reduce the role of government, not simply redirect it to the states. Redirecting programs through the states doesn’t really reduce the money flowing from taxpayers through the feds, the massive redistribution, or the ability of the feds to control the states through controlling their purse strings—it actually increases that.

But that seems to be what all GOP governors advocate.


6 posted on 08/21/2015 4:12:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So Walker would increase regulation of how companies compensate their employees, but do it in a way that actually could be more intrusive than having to channel some of their pay through any overtime worked.

Under the Walker plan government would be dictating that businesses have to allow employees more time off of their jobs. That really could affect staffing, leading to having to train and hire more people for certain positions, etc.


7 posted on 08/21/2015 4:16:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: All
Scott Walker Takes Dead Aim at Obamacare
8 posted on 08/21/2015 4:18:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
in the federal government, we need reforms there as well, making changes in the civil service and public-employee practices

Break federal employee unions like he did Wisconsin ones.

9 posted on 08/21/2015 4:19:20 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: 9YearLurker
...Under the Walker plan government would be dictating that businesses have to allow employees more time off of their jobs. That really could affect staffing, leading to having to train and hire more people for certain positions, etc.

Since you don't know the plan, you'll be more informed when the details come out.

10 posted on 08/21/2015 4:19:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh, but did you forget to post?

Trump of course leads in North Carolinians’ choice for president at 24%. Walker is in a three-way tie for sixth, with Fiorina and Huck, at 6%.


11 posted on 08/21/2015 4:22:11 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It doesn’t take a “plan” for employers to give employees comp time voluntarily—they are already free to do that.

It only takes a government plan if you’re going to mandate it—which is exactly what I responded to. The details (e.g., easing or exempting the requirement for a certain size of smaller business) doesn’t really make a difference (other than being unfair, giving businesses an incentive not to grow, and imposing the burden on somewhat fewer employers.)


12 posted on 08/21/2015 4:24:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
I’ve never lived in a state with an efficient government

What's your plan?

What is your candidate's plan?

13 posted on 08/21/2015 4:24:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 9YearLurker

WALKER: “...... But I’d rather go in the other direction, the direction of greater flexibility, to allow “comp time” instead of overtime — if the employee wants it......


14 posted on 08/21/2015 4:25:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s the only thing it could mean. Comp time in compensation for those employees working overtime, if part of a government plan or initiative or whatever is mandated. At best, it could be a choice of the Obama pay requirement or Walker’s comp time—buy that’s still more government intrusion in free market hiring in business.


15 posted on 08/21/2015 4:30:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Well, when there is more information we’ll discuss it further.

Who’s your candidate? Cruz? Trump? Carson?


16 posted on 08/21/2015 4:32:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
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Scott Walker Takes Dead Aim at Obamacare


... and apologizes to Ted Cruz and Mike Lee for Scott Walker's cowardly "gone fishing" status while they valiantly fought to defund ObamaCare 18 months ago ...


"Sorry Guys, I couldn't join you at Normandy Beach because I was cooking the Wisconsin books for the unemployment numbers" ...



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17 posted on 08/21/2015 4:34:52 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Depending on how things develop, Trump/Cruz is my ticket.

My order in the field right now goes about like this:

Trump
Cruz
Jindal
Carson
Walker
—move to newly conservative Canada.


18 posted on 08/21/2015 4:40:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Okay. Thanks.


19 posted on 08/21/2015 4:46:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Are you a lost Hillary! supporter? I only ask, because you’re using Democratic Party talking points.

If you want to be informed and not be a useful tool for the Left, educate yourself.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonhartley/2015/04/23/as-the-fed-prepares-to-tighten-which-states-have-already-reached-full-employment/

April 23, 2015 [Forbes] As The Fed Prepares To Tighten, Which States Have Already Reached Full Employment? ~~Wisconsin among the first states to reach full-employment in the Midwest along with energy-focused states~~

“....The Midwestern economy can generally be divided into states with a significant energy presence that have benefitted from the innovation of horizontal drilling and those that have not and are more focused on manufacturing.

States that have benefitted from the technological advance have arguably seen their natural rates of unemployment fall. For example, the unemployment rates during March of South Dakota (3.5%), North Dakota (3.1%), and Minnesota (3.7%) are well below the national average of 5.5%.

The manufacturing focused states in the Midwest however tell a very different story of a mixed economic recovery. For instance, the unemployment rates of Illinois (6.0%), Indiana (5.8%) and Michigan (5.6%) remain above the national average of 5.5%. Arguably these states have a fair amount of slack in their respective labor markets, especially when considering the decline in their respective labor force participation rates since the Great Recession.

One outlier in the manufacturing branch of the Midwestern economy is Wisconsin that has not only an unemployment of 4.6% (well below the national unemployment rate of 5.5%), but also a labor force participation rate of 68.4% well above the national rate of 62.7%.

An important analytical caveat is when a states like Wisconsin approach or attain full-employment, job growth will likely slow to be more in line with population growth. It’s important to note that the U.S. economy needs to add 80,000 jobs per month according to a paper by Chicago Fed economists Dan Aaronson and Scott Brave simply to keep up with population growth and maintain the same employment rate as the previous month. Some reports have confused this principle in attempting to misuse data to direct political attacks toward Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, using 12-month job growth as the only metric in measuring the state’s economy, ignoring the unemployment gap (relative to full-employment) and labor force participation, two of the most popular metrics preferred by economists when assessing the state of the labor market.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-closer-look-at-scott-walkers-record-on-jobs-1430688558

May 3, 2015 [WSJ] A Closer Look at Scott Walker’s Record on Jobs “Wisconsin ranks 40th in the nation for job growth, or so says a recent Bureau of Labor Statistics report. Many in the media and political circles pounced on the release as evidence that the policies of Republican Gov. Scott Walker, a potential presidential candidate, have left the Badger State trailing much of the nation.

But the report failed to give sufficient context to Wisconsin’s job growth. The BLS, along with other reports touting similar results, ranked states based on how much private employment increased over a year.

Why might Wisconsin’s employment increase seem modest? One reason could be that more Wisconsinites than people in many other states already had jobs, which they did. Another wrinkle comes from factors like the energy boom in the upper plains states. In states like Wisconsin not so blessed with shale, job growth can seem comparatively slow.

Let’s look at Wisconsin’s employment growth since Mr. Walker took office. Since February 2011, Wisconsin’s employable population has grown by about 100,000 people, but the number of people employed increased by about 135,000. That means employment outpaced population growth significantly..........


20 posted on 08/21/2015 4:56:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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