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For Mexicans, Trump’s bid is getting scarier (He's a nightmare alert)
Washington Post ^ | August 18, 2015 | Joshua Partlow

Posted on 08/18/2015 10:03:41 AM PDT by Zakeet

If Donald Trump were president, he would have Mexico pay to build a wall along its 2,000-mile border to keep itself out.

He’d block the billions of dollars that Mexicans illegally in the United States send home to their families. And prevent their children born in America from automatically becoming U.S. citizens.

There wouldn’t be many of these children, however, because Trump would be deporting millions of undocumented Mexicans — all of them, if he had his way.

How does that sound, Mexico?

“We don’t know if we should laugh or if we should cry,” said Guadalupe Loaeza, a prominent Mexican columnist. “We think he’s really a nightmare.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; immigration; mexico; trump
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Trumps comments sound to some Mexicans like Germany in the 1930s, when they made Jews responsible for everything that was happening ... and that's not fair because a lot of the illegals also come from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Asia and the Middle East!

1 posted on 08/18/2015 10:03:41 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

What? No more dumping the gangsters and citizens we don’t want anymore?

And maybe some of them will come back?

Que lastisima!


2 posted on 08/18/2015 10:04:54 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Zakeet

For ILLEGAL ALIENS, Trump’s bid is getting scarier


3 posted on 08/18/2015 10:05:00 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Zakeet

They all come through Mexico, and Mexico permits it. In fact, they monitor it, such that they make sure that whatever comes in goes through and doesn’t stay.

You should see the border between Guatemala and Mexico.

Can go to the moon, can’t build a wall. Check.


4 posted on 08/18/2015 10:05:20 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Zakeet

I ordered a TRUMP t-shirt for my mom who is in a nursing care facility in Florida. She can’t speak anymore but digs TRUMP...LOL!


5 posted on 08/18/2015 10:05:45 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: Zakeet

They’re Mexicans in my book if they transit through Mexico to get here. Mexican, Mexican, Mexican....a thousand times Mexican.


6 posted on 08/18/2015 10:05:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Zakeet

It’s true the invaders also came from those other countries. But they came here through Mexico. Mexico won’t take them, but they’ll enable their getting to the US through there.


7 posted on 08/18/2015 10:06:40 AM PDT by grania
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To: Zakeet

Do Americans have immigration status in Mexico?

Do Americans have immigration status in China?

Do Americans have immigration status in any other country? Why in the world should we give two flips about their views, when all I see from around the world is nothing.

We need to worry about America now. Enough with “diversity”. Nobody else anywhere, is doing it, why should we?


8 posted on 08/18/2015 10:06:49 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Zakeet

How does Mexico treat people who stay there illegally?


9 posted on 08/18/2015 10:06:54 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Zakeet

I love what hes saying, but i wish i could believe its real and well thought out and genuine and from true convictions and solid core beliefs instead of just populist statements for conservatives to get excited about.


10 posted on 08/18/2015 10:06:59 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Zakeet

It would e nice for a president to stop the state dept printing bulletins in spanish for crimigrant illegals how to access govt services and benefits here.


11 posted on 08/18/2015 10:08:27 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Zakeet
Poncho, Cisco and the boys, getting ready to put on their leaf blowers.


12 posted on 08/18/2015 10:11:11 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I think Mexico should be required to provide reciprocity for Americans.

We would own the economy in a generation.


13 posted on 08/18/2015 10:11:28 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Zakeet

A prime technique for bringing down an existing social order is to OVERLOAD and OVERWHELM the governmental systems, creating economic and social chaos. What’s going on today is straight out of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” and the Cloward-Piven Strategy named for the Marxist maniac couple who tutored obazo on its finer points. Because we have NOT sent home 20 million illegals, WE NOW HAVE THE FISCAL BANKRUPTCY AND ARE CLOSING IN ON THE SOCIAL CHAOS. BOTH parties have been applying those methods but obozo, who studied those methods under Cloward-Piven Ayers while a so-called “community organizer,” is using ALL the gadgets in the radical toolkit. If it continues much longer, YOUR kids are doomed to life as serfs in a nation that will more resemble Nazi Germany or the old USSR than the America the Founders ATTEMPTED to leave us.
 
My niece was an OB/GYN who took her pre-med at HAAAAVVAAAAADDD! Needless to say, she emerged from that experience a LIBERAL. (She stopped catching babies and went into research when her malpractice premiums ultimately began to exceed her annual earnings.)
 
Upon completing her medical training at yet another liberal university, she interned at a hospital near the border in “Kahlifonia.”
 
It was there that a mystical transformation took place: She began to connect the heavy deductions from the slave wage GROSS EARNINGS for which she busted her butt for as many as 72 virtually sleepless hours with the taxis and jalopies regularly sliding to the curb in front of the ER.
 
Many of them contained pregnant illegals who won the race to deliver their babies HERE. She caught many of those “anchor babies” who, under the current — and COMPLETELY ERRONEOUS —interpretation of the 14th Amendment were IMMEDIATELY NEW AMERICANS. The mother – who, obviously, could not care for the child if she were back in her native land — could not be deported now even if the INS and the political bosses WANTED her deported (which, because these illegals can generally be counted on to vote the liberal line, they DO NOT). And as the mother of a new US citizen, the woman could remain here for about as long as she cared to – and that was usually for life.

(NOTE: I’ll post several links to more information on the 14th Amendment at the end of my little rant. It’s a fascinating and disturbing story.

Most of those patients were welfare recipients and the deliveries were charity cases: The bill for the hospital’s – and HER services – were routinely spread over the bills of those who DO pay. And what the other users of those facilities don’t cover went back to the taxpayers.

And since my family member was now a taxpayer, they were costing HER.
 
And while she may not exactly be a libertarian, today she has come a long way from Harvard.

And just so the bleeders who might see this don’t think me some sort of ethnocentric bigot, I submit this problem is MORE than just about illegals.
 
Before my oldest daughter was born at University Hospital in Cleveland in 1967, I sat in the main lobby as welfare mother-to-be after welfare mother-to-be waddled through the door to the maternity ER for THEIR free deliveries.
 
Before WE could take OUR daughter home, I had to cough up over 3 grand. And that was a great deal of dough in 1967, especially for a guy who’d just finished a 4 year turn in the USAF.
 
As I wrote the check, I remembered the magazine article I’d recently read by a hospital administrator from Massachusetts who admitted that all US hospitals practiced a form of medical Marxism, spreading the costs of care for indigents over the bills of those who DO pay for care. Given the move to socialism here, it probably will never be otherwise: Not counting Byzantine complexity and confusion, government produces – and has — NOTHING unless it first takes it from some PERSON. SOMEBODY ALWAYS PAYS.

The illegals have been using the emergency rooms of our hospitals for their health-care, almost always at no charge to them. That cost is either spread over other users or the taxpayers. We have seen a national epidemic of hospital closings due to their insolvency, much of it caused by the burden of trying to render care to PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN’T EVEN BE HERE, denying care to native-born citizens who normally pay their bills and their taxes. And, I submit, the drain the illegals impose on the welfare system is a major reason for our national insolvency and the impending social chaos. (Thank you grubby leftist, power-hungry RINO politicians and bureaucrats!)
 
Look, I have a big enough problem paying for the 3rd and 4th generation slackers and welfare bums who were BORN here.
 
It’s long past time we stopped paying for those who were not.

PS: Sadly, we lost my niece to cancer in May of 2011 – at age 50!
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AFTER RANT POST:
For a short, Reader’s Digest version of the ORIGINAL intent of the 14th Amendment, go here: http://pocusa.info/NLArchive22_14thAmndt.html . For a more comprehensive explanation of the events surrounding the amendment, go here: http://www.14thamendment.us/index.html )


14 posted on 08/18/2015 10:12:24 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Gaffer

Bingo. It doesn’t matter their country of origin, only the company transmitting them.


15 posted on 08/18/2015 10:14:49 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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Yeh he is their worst nightmare. They will have to start cleaning up their act and take care of their own underclass. Screw Mexico.


16 posted on 08/18/2015 10:15:22 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Zakeet

Went by the home of an older Hispanic couple yesterday. She asked me, what do you think of Trump?

She offered up that she liked some things about him.

I explained that he’s more Conservative than a lot of folks thought. She dislikes Obamacare, so she was receptive to changes there.


17 posted on 08/18/2015 10:16:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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And soon they will become more militant by they day if Trump keeps building support. It will get ugly and they will not help their cause. It needs to come to a head and be ended. If it does not and they “win” against Trump they will be worse, more numerous and even more incredibly brazen than they are now.

Don’t know if many recognize it but war is being declared I think. Actually, I hope so.

Many will be hurt economically... those that cater to illegals... but it will turn out for the best in the end. For example, WalMart makes a lot of money from trade to people with EBT and WIC cards that are provided to these people... They are happy to take your tax dollars in doing so... thank you very much citizen. The WalMart’s of the country will fight back with the illegals. So will the slum lords that provide places for them to stay. So will the teacher’s unions that employ interpreters and more teachers. It is dry here in Texas now and brown and by the time school starts it will be much more brown on the school grounds. Imagine how many of those children would not be here if illegals are legally and rightfully deported?

The bumper sticker we need is: 42,000,000 and counting

That is not illegal immigration... it is a nation changing invasion!!! No army in history has ever been this numerous. They will probably win no matter what we do... they will surely win if we do nothing and you will not be treated well when they do win.


18 posted on 08/18/2015 10:16:31 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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Right. Opposing illegal immigration is Nazism.

Got it.

The Cultural Marxist meme resurgent.

If ya opposes our invasion, yer all NAZI’s! Fascists! (Mexican Gangbanger 1 to Mexican Gangbanger 2: ¿Que es “fascist”?)

Good game. Point fingers and scream epithets to defeat logic and rationality.

Leftists been doin’ that goin’ on 130 years now.


19 posted on 08/18/2015 10:17:03 AM PDT by Regulator
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Well, let’s put it this way. What does he stand to lose if he doesn’t go all the way now? Where will his family and business be in 20 years when Hispanics take over the entire country?

Trump cannot walk away from this. He’s in it for his life.


20 posted on 08/18/2015 10:17:07 AM PDT by ballearthout
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