Posted on 08/05/2015 2:04:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
The lowest moment from what was probably the lowest speech of his presidency — so far. David Harsanyi, watching this, asks a good question:
Imagine what would have happened if Bush had said that Democrats were caucusing with Saddam Hussein?
— David Harsanyi (@davidharsanyi) August 5, 2015
The GOP opposes the nuclear deal because they think it’s too favorable to Iran and not favorable enough to America. The hardliners in Iran’s parliament oppose the deal for the opposite reason. Insofar as they both want the deal to fail, I suppose that’s “common cause.” But then, as Harsanyi says, it must also be true that Barack Obama made “common cause” with Saddam Hussein since both of them thought the Iraq war was a bad idea. Obama thought it was a bad idea for U.S. and Iraqi security whereas Saddam thought it was a bad idea for his own personal security, but the reasoning is immaterial apparently. All that matters to “common cause” is how the parties to an issue align. Or at least, 12 years after the invasion of Iraq, that’s all that matters now. I wonder what Democrats like Steve Israel, who came out against the Iran deal yesterday, thought when they found out today that they’re on the same side as the worst fanatics in Iran’s government.
Actually, Obama’s insult may be worse than it at first appears. The major theme of this speech, as it always, always is — and always disingenuously — when Obama talks about diplomacy with Iran is that the only alternative is war. Reportedly he went so far today in a private meeting with Jewish leaders as to claim that Iranian rockets will rain down on Tel Aviv if the GOP-led Congress blocks the deal, because that will lead to war with Iran and war will lead to Iranian reprisals against Israel. Never mind that Iranian-made rockets already rain down on Israel every few years thanks to Hezbollah and that the sanctions relief Iran is getting from this deal will help pay for more of them. Never mind too that Israel’s own prime minister seems to think reprisals are a risk worth taking in the name of stopping an Iranian atomic bomb. The point, at least to Obama, is that only a warmonger would oppose this terrible deal, which all but endorses an Iranian bomb 10 years from now. Equating the Republicans in Congress with Iran’s hardliners was his way of suggesting, I think, that both of those groups actually seek war with each other in the name of advancing their own political interests. There’s no such thing as good-faith opposition to an Obama policy, at least outside the Democratic caucus. If GOP hawks hate his nuclear deal, it can only be because they’ve got Gulf War III on the brain and refuse to let some master stroke of diplomacy deter them.
In fact, that’s basically an Iranian talking point coming out of the president’s mouth, that some elements of the U.S. government are stone-cold fanatics who’ll accept nothing short of war with Iran. You hear a lot of Iranian talking points coming from the White House lately, curiously enough: Ed wrote this morning about John Kerry warning his former colleagues in Congress not to “screw” the country’s lunatic supreme leader by torpedoing a deal he kinda sorta supports. Here’s another choice bit from the same interview when Kerry was asked why we would agree to advanced enrichment 10 years from now by a country that’s sworn it’ll destroy Israel:
Though he says he is in tune with this set of Israeli fears, he does not endorse a view widely shared by Israelis—and by many Americans—that Iran’s leaders, who have often said that they seek the destruction of Israel, mean what they say. “I think they have a fundamental ideological confrontation with Israel at this particular moment. Whether or not that translates into active steps to, quote, ‘Wipe it,’ you know …” Here I interjected: “Wipe it off the map.” Kerry continued: “I don’t know the answer to that. I haven’t seen anything that says to me—they’ve got 80,000 rockets in Hezbollah pointed at Israel, and any number of choices could have been made. They didn’t make the bomb when they had enough material for 10 to 12. They’ve signed on to an agreement where they say they’ll never try and make one and we have a mechanism in place where we can prove that. So I don’t want to get locked into that debate. I think it’s a waste of time here.”
That’s some fine PR for the mullahs: They haven’t tried to destroy Israel yet, and as far as what the future holds, who knows? And yet it’s the GOP, according to this guy’s boss, that’s making common cause with Iranian lunatics, not the White House. Over to you, Michael Weiss:
Please posit these two news stories, conveniently placed side by side. pic.twitter.com/ACUOD4SDjl
— Michael Weiss (@michaeldweiss) August 5, 2015
Two clips for you here, one about “common cause” and the other of Obama acknowledging that, sure, some of the money Iran gets after sanctions are lifted will go towards funding terror. This too he defends as if his deal was the only possible outcome of the negotiations: Sanctions relief was always going to be part of a nuclear agreement, he notes, so if you oppose that, you oppose diplomacy altogether. That would be a fair point if the agreement had produced something more meaningful for the U.S., like a permanent end to Iranian nuclearization. If the program had been “dismantled” rather than simply slowed down for 10 years, even Netanyahu could have gone along with it; the benefit would have been worth the cost of some extra cash in Iran’s terror treasury. Instead they got the money and we got nothing more than a 10-year respite from having to decide what to do about a fanatic Shiite regime with nuclear “breakout” capacity. And you know what the weirdest part of all of this is? For all their demagoguery and desperation in pushing this deal, Obama and Kerry don’t need to sell it at all. There’s nothing the GOP can do to stop it. The purchase has already been made in Congress. Obama and Kerry are getting nasty here not because they think it’s essential to getting Democrats to buy in but because, I think, they simply resent having their diplomatic master work criticized so sharply. It’s personal.
Obama: Iran Hardliners 'Making Common Cause With the Republican Caucus'
OBAMA: Iran Will Use Sanctions Relief Money to Fund Terrorism
Here is the kicker, and it seems to just vanish...
“They didn’t make the bomb when they had enough material for 10 to 12.”
What sort of lunacy do these morons have?
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Well, all that compromise with obama and obama compares Republicans to iranian hardliners...will boehner/mcconnell criticize obama now
Depends where the money is coming from.
Based on secret negotiations and an unknown IAEA inspection agreement with Iran.
IAEA says it can't give Congress its nuke document with Iran
Again, we are just too dumb to understand how great Owebowma and this deal is.
Iranian hardliners caucasing with the Republicans?
Seems to me the IRANIAN people PUTZ head Obama says are not chanting death to America don’t want to destroy America,are the same ones who rose up against the crazy Mullahs and were marching in the streets of Tehran begging The CHAMPION of diplomlacy and peace to acknowledge them,they wanted To not be ruled by the radical clerics,it’s when that woman was shot in the head.
So what did the CHAMPION of peace do? He ignored the people that he now claims to be in solidarity with.
Obama is a lying ahole
They have the bomb.
That would be my guess.
Why would Kerry say they had enough for 10 or 12 ?
If they had that much, machining the core parts wouldn’t
take long, especially if they had the explosive
charges already made, and we know they have carried
out research on that already.
Sort of like America made common cause with Stalinist Communist Russia against Hitler and the Nazis.....
Well, it’s not like they were doing it in Auto-shop
they probably had hands on experience in North Korea.
Who knows, it might be part of Kerry’s secret agreements.
They probably have the bomb and are working hard on the missiles and the rest of the delivery system. There are long range missiles in the plan also, designed to hit Europe and the U.S.
The world will eventually pay a terrible price for this diabolical deal.
Ever was it thus, Churchill said it, “you chose dishonor
and you will have war”.
Want to REALLY blow your circuits!! Read the YAHOO NEWS
version!!
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-warns-rejecting-iran-deal-spell-war-182100578.html
Obama warns rejecting Iran deal would spell war
” Obama made an aggressive case for his signature nuclear deal with Iran Wednesday, telling lawmakers that rejecting diplomacy would lead to war and destroy US credibility.”
And you KNOW more than 30-40% of “average”- teens-27’s quoted up til 33-39 olds READ AND BELIEVE “Yahoo” News!!
Worse than “the View” Zoombies!!
“...If they don’t, they will soon have the cash to buy bombs and delivery systems. They’re probably on use net soliciting offers right now. ..”
” The Sum of All Fears “ part two!
Think it wouldn’t be HARD to find Iranian/ Lone-Wolfs WITH n Iranian backing / nuts to FLY into New York? D.C.?
They won’t NEED ICBMs!
I just Read Rush’s take on the speech! it’s Great!
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