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Gunfight or Flee: New Study Finds No Advantages to Using a Firearm in Self-Defense Situations
thetrace.org ^ | 7/14/2015 | Evan Defilippis and Devin Hughes

Posted on 07/15/2015 9:40:06 AM PDT by rktman

Contrary to what many gun advocates argue, the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) data reveals that having a gun provides no statistically significant benefit to a would-be victim during a criminal confrontation.

(Excerpt) Read more at thetrace.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
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DOH! Well that pretty much wraps it up for me. If all my firearms hadn't been lost in that canoe accident, by golly I'd be headed to Rancho Cucamonga to have 'em all made in to rebar.
1 posted on 07/15/2015 9:40:06 AM PDT by rktman
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2 posted on 07/15/2015 9:42:12 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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Looks like law enforcement can give up their guns since they’re so useless!!!


3 posted on 07/15/2015 9:42:53 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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Im guessing there website went online during William Clinton’s ....administration

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=dcdetail&iid=245


4 posted on 07/15/2015 9:43:06 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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Paris Ainsworth was shot 4 times and still returned fire hitting 2 of 3 attackers, one of them twice.

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5 posted on 07/15/2015 9:43:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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You too, huh? The same thing happened to me.


6 posted on 07/15/2015 9:43:28 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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There are so many would-have-been victims of violent criminals, who were stopped by a citizen exercising his Second Amendment right, who would beg to disagree. We haven’t touched the ocean of such stories (verified) just in the many which have repeated on Free Republic.


7 posted on 07/15/2015 9:44:31 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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“Looks like law enforcement can give up their guns since they’re so useless!!!”

LMAO!


8 posted on 07/15/2015 9:44:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Well, now we know.

So, I don’t see why cops should not be disarmed immediately, since:
1) It gets hundreds of thousands of guns off the street - TODAY, and
2) Since it is now known that, statistically speaking, guns don’t help them in a gunfight.


9 posted on 07/15/2015 9:44:45 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Fiddlstix

If I brought them a bunch of rebar do you think
I could get them to make me a firearm?


10 posted on 07/15/2015 9:45:22 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: cripplecreek

How silly. We found out through dauntless research* that the Koch brothers paid her to say this stuff and it never really happened. Right?

*Sources and results not provided. Trust us.


11 posted on 07/15/2015 9:45:45 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Any mention of the margin of error in this study? (I’m not reading it.)


12 posted on 07/15/2015 9:47:08 AM PDT by WinMod70
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When THEY do, I will.

Until then... eh... no.


13 posted on 07/15/2015 9:47:08 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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As is said in the medical research field— “a statistical outcome of less than 1% is STILL 100% to any one individual so affected by a “side effect”.”

This “study” ignores the 100% result of efficacy in the successful conduct of self defence with a firearm— which kills or stops the attacker.

I0W the article is total utter BS.


14 posted on 07/15/2015 9:47:34 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Point a gun at the researcher and say “rob me”.

Does this fool get a grant?

“Give me your damn money.”


15 posted on 07/15/2015 9:47:58 AM PDT by GoneSalt
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It may or may not be true for the collective overall. But the problem is that self defense is a VERY personal moment.
No matter what the masses may or may not be capable of, it all comes down to one person, standing alone in a hotel room, as a crack addled invader decides to shoot you,,,,

Is that individual supposed to forgo the tool he or she is skilled with, and that could save HIS and his wifes life? Is he supposed to forgo that because its better for the collective?

Defense of your life is not something to be judged in the collective, it is a collection of very lonely moments. One unique individual with a face and a name, and a right to try to save their own life.

It has always been, and will always be.


16 posted on 07/15/2015 9:48:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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The Justice Department, to which this group is attached, is 100% believable, and has never cut corners or fudged data. Eric Holder is a man of impeccable virtue! Never has been censured by Congress! Never has been caught shipping guns to Mexico! Never has refused any information when requested by Congress.

You should only bring this report to a gunfight.

17 posted on 07/15/2015 9:48:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Back in the 1970's, Iran used to call us the "Great Satan". Turns out they were right all along.)
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To: WinMod70

LOL! There are no errors in these type “studies”. It would do us well to remember that. :>}


18 posted on 07/15/2015 9:48:28 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Darteaus94025

Disarm the NYPD?


19 posted on 07/15/2015 9:49:30 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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There are so many would-have-been victims of violent criminals, who were stopped by a citizen exercising his Second Amendment right, who would beg to disagree.

I bet half the people who defend them selves with a weapon never report it.

Depending on the circumstance I would likely keep quiet about it, especially as far as law enforcement is concerned.

20 posted on 07/15/2015 9:49:41 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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