Disappointment follows ruling against Little Sisters (of the Poor) in mandate case

cna ^ | July 14, 2015

[NYer]

LITTLE SISTERS OF THE POOR MISSION, VISION and VALUES 2012

The Little Sisters of the Poor are an international congregation of Roman Catholic women religious founded in 1839 by Saint Jeanne Jugan. Together with a diverse network of collaborators, we serve the elderly poor in over 30 countries around the world.


Continuing the work of Saint Jeanne Jugan, our MISSION is to offer the neediest elderly of every race and religion a home where they will be welcomed as Christ, cared for as family and accompanied with dignity until God calls them to himself.

Our VISION is to contribute to the Culture of Life by nurturing communities where each person is valued, the solidarity of the human family and the wisdom of age are celebrated, and the compassionate love of Christ is shared with all.



Our VALUES

REVERENCE for the sacredness of human life and for the uniqueness of 
each person, especially those who are poorest and/or weakest. This is 
reflected in care that is holistic and person-centered.



FAMILY SPIRIT: a spirit of joyful hospitality embracing all with open arms, 
hearts and minds; fostering participation in the life of the home and rejecting 
all forms of discrimination.



HUMBLE SERVICE: the desire to raise others up and to put their needs before 
our own; an appreciation of simple, everyday tasks and experiences and humble 
means in accomplishing our work.



COMPASSION: empathy for sharing the weaknesses and sufferings of others; 
eagerness to relieve pain in all its forms and to make the elderly happy.



STEWARDSHIP: the recognition that life and all other goods are gifts from God
 and should therefore be used responsibly for the good of all; trust in God’s Providence 
and the generosity of others to provide for our needs; just compensation for our
 collaborators; a spirit of gratitude and sharing.

 

[NYer]

Catholic ping!

[HiTech RedNeck]

By turning itself into a wholly volunteer body with no more “employees” could the charity avert the problem?

It seems the “employee” status is the rub.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And not associated with a particular house of worship? I don’t understand, why does it have to be, that seems arbitrary. It is tied to the Roman Catholic denomination and that ought to do as well as one tied to Lutherans or Presbyterians or Muslims or whatever.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That’s an interesting suggestion. I wonder if it could legally be done? I don’t think the sisters themselves receive salaries. But lay people who have mortgages to pay, families to support, and debts to pay off, would have to be compensated somehow to get the equivalent of whatever they’re getting now: I don’t know how you could claim such a person is not an employee.

[Gumdrop]

Just another example of BIG government being a BULLY. Are not they the ones who are always lecturing us on why we should not be bullies?

Maybe the government should force their employees to take diversity training on tolerance! Bad Bad Bad employees of the BIG government abusing Little Sisters of the Poor!

[I want the USA back]

Disobey sisters. The administration of this country has lost its claim to validity.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Maybe a multiple-charity system where part, per donor designation, goes to benefit the charity agents (trying not to say workers)?

I do know that some evangelical congregations take love offerings. Could something along those lines occur here.

[demshateGod]

Once we realize there’s an agenda backed by a sophisticated, wide-spread system that controls every facet of government, we’re realize this outcome was never in question. Then, we’ll stop trying to fight outcomes like this with methods that are designed to fail.

[Hieronymus]

Post 5 has some good observations. Now days there aren’t many major religious apostolates run solely with the work of religious and part time volunteers. Specialists are needed to tackle all sorts of things.

[editor-surveyor]

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Have Satan’s demons indwelt every judge in the country?
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[demshateGod]

No. You’re talking as if the law matters. Like, “if we just legally structure ourselves in such a way that we avoid this law and we utilize that loophole.” All of that will be shut down because the law is not the agenda. Defeating Christianity as an influence is the agenda. Completing Marx’s cultural evolution is the agenda.

[editor-surveyor]

Specialists can volunteer too.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Well you can sing the total demoralized defeat song if you want to, but what courage is that. Sounds like a member of Satan’s cheer leading squad, even while stating as an excuse others who are on it.

One thing at a time.

[trisham]

No. You’re talking as if the law matters. Like, “if we just legally structure ourselves in such a way that we avoid this law and we utilize that loophole.” All of that will be shut down because the law is not the agenda. Defeating Christianity as an influence is the agenda. Completing Marx’s cultural evolution is the agenda.

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I hear you.

[HiTech RedNeck]

What happened to the “all good means, all good men” dictum. I hate concern trolling.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

I don’t know how you could claim such a person is not an employee.

Claim them as contractors, not employees.

[demshateGod]

We are fighting a losing game. We cannot win fighting this way. We spend all our time fighting a game with rules that prevent us from winning because the rules keep changing to suite the other side. That doesn’t make me a coward or a quitter. I still don’t know why this doesn’t make sense to people.

They’re playing checkers and making us play chess. We keep playing and saying, “we’re going to beat you this time.”

[shankbear]

Just ignore it.

[trisham]

John 15:12

This is my commandment, that you love one another, as I have loved you.