Posted on 06/30/2015 9:04:20 AM PDT by Plummz
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) met rancher Cliven Bundy on Monday, along with several dozen supporters and land rights activists during a presidential campaign swing through Nevada.
The Associated Press reported the two met at a stop northeast of Las Vegas, where Paul fielded questions on public land control, a major issue in the state, where much land is owned by the federal government.
"I think almost all land use issues and animal issues, endangered species issues, ought to be handled at the state level," Paul told the AP.
"I think that the government shouldn't interfere with state decisions, so if a state decides to have medical marijuana or something like that, it should be respected as a state decision," he added.
Bundy made headlines last year and became the face of a land rights standoff with the Bureau of Land Management, which says the rancher owes more than $1 million in grazing fees over 20 years.
"In general, I think we're in tune with each other," Bundy told the AP. "I don't think we need to ask Washington, D.C., for this land. It's our land."
It's NOT owned by the federal government. In most cases, they have proprietary interest, but that does NOT infer ownership. There are very few instances where the feds actually "own" public land.
In the case of the state of Nevada, much of the land is owned by the US government. The ownership was transferred via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildago.
“It’s NOT owned by the federal government. In most cases, they have proprietary interest, but that does NOT infer ownership. There are very few instances where the feds actually “own” public land.”
If not the federal govt., who does own the land in question?
As a real estate broker, I know my county has a recorder’s office, where deeds can be found, showing who the “owner” is for any parcel.
If another party leases land, the lease may also be recorded.
But it is all there as a public record, for all to see. If the rancher “owns” or “leases” the lands in question, perhaps there is a publicly recorded record of same.
Correct. HOWEVER, when Nevada became a State, I do believe they would have secured ownership, and that is when the feds get proprietary interest. I'll admit that things may be different in Nevada, but that is how it was in Colorado when it was formed as a State. Obviously there is more to it - it is written into the State Enabling Act, is where I would look first.
The State, under the State's enabling act, I believe. That is how it worked out here in CO. It is entirely possible that Nevada is different, but from what I understand, the enabling act of most Western States transferred ownership to the State upon the formation of the State.
That was not the case. If you read the State of Nevada constitution, (https://www.leg.state.nv.us/const/nvconst.html) under the Ordance section part three, the citizens of Nevada disclaim any rights to “...unappropriated public lands lying within said territory,)
That is most unfortunate.
Ah yes. Rand “photo-op” Paul.
Isn’t that special.
So, three cheers to Rand Paul for reminding how deep this destruction of the US goes!
I believe that is the case specifically with every Western State where the Federal Government retained some or most of the public land, and was to return some or most on Statehood.
It appears to be a cya sort of statement allowing the federal government to do pretty much what it wanted with the land without public interference until it chose to return or not return said lands. The Rockies and West is where most of this went on. Most other States have five or less percent of their lands tied up by the Fed.
Why do you say Cliven Bundy is lying?
Why are you lying?
Well, now you’re the one lying. I haven’t lied about anything.
You replied to this article by calling Mr. Bundy a bullshitter. Can you back that up? Or are you full of shit?
You don't have to have title to land to control it if you have government regulatory power to back up your theft.
The Fed can simply turn your land or any other land into a national park or heritage site and boom you no longer own it. They of course can always find some endangered rat or bug on your property which accomplishes the same thing.
Mind your language, please; there are ladies present.
Oh Rande.
That is what I remember reading ... that when a western territory applied for statehood, the feds would retain a huge majority of the land in each state.As in about 93% of fed land is in 13 western states.
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