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Marines, corpsman refuse to testify against sergeant at retrial in Iraqi killing
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 14, 2015 | By Tony Perry

Posted on 06/14/2015 8:31:41 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

Despite offers of immunity from prosecution, four ex-Marines and a former Navy corpsman have refused to testify against Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins in his retrial in the 2006 killing of an Iraqi.

The five — all of whom were convicted in the killing and served time in the brig — asserted their 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination during the court martial last week at Camp Pendleton.

Hutchins, 31, was the squad leader the night that prosecutors claim the squad dragged a 52-year-old Iraqi from his bed, tied his hands, shot him multiple times and then tried to make the incident look like a firefight.

Hutchins stood over the wounded man and pumped three bullets into his face, which "blew up the back of his skull," one of the prosecutors, Maj. Samson Newsome, told the six-man jury in his opening statement.

The jury — three officers and three senior enlisted — must decide whether Hutchins should again be convicted of unpremeditated murder and possibly returned to prison for four-plus years. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: usmilitary

1 posted on 06/14/2015 8:31:41 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

As good as can be hoped for.

Is it time for civil disobedience?


2 posted on 06/14/2015 8:37:42 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Brad from Tennessee
pumped three bullets into his face

A major in the military really said that?

3 posted on 06/14/2015 8:39:31 AM PDT by wastedyears (Knights of Sidonia)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"Despite offers of immunity from prosecution, four ex-Marines and a former Navy corpsman have refused to testify . . . The five — all of whom were convicted in the killing and served time in the brig — asserted their 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination . . . All were then discharged from the military — under orders from Navy Secretary Ray Mabus.

I hope this is just bad journalism, but exactly what immunity could be offered to Marines and a sailor who have already been convicted, served time, and been discharged from the military? As is so often the case in Obama's lawless version of America, the only thing that keeps me from being even more disgusted is confusion.

4 posted on 06/14/2015 9:19:27 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Agree ....good point.


5 posted on 06/14/2015 9:48:56 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: jagusafr

Ping to UCMJ proceedings...


6 posted on 06/14/2015 9:58:28 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Pollster1

And what’s with the “again be convicted?”

I know the papers are slowly dying, but are they subbing out writing and editing to Colorado, or what?


7 posted on 06/14/2015 10:03:03 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (The last days of America will not resemble Rome, but Carthage.)
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To: Pollster1
Your post raised an interesting question, so I looked at the underlying article (which I do not often do /snort).

1. The refusing witnesses argued their ...confessions and later testimony were coerced and falsified by Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) agents. So, in one sense, it was a big FY back to the prosecution.

2. Perhaps most importantly, to the extent the witnesses originally were coerced to be less than truthful, they were concerned about getting tripped up in the second trial. ...they did not want to risk prosecution for perjury if, in testifying, they changed their testimony.

8 posted on 06/14/2015 10:18:11 AM PDT by frog in a pot (If it is actually happening don't tell me I am being paranoid.)
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To: SZonian

I tend to agree with the reluctant witnesses - they have absolutely nothing to gain from assisting the prosecution. The only thing, from a purely strategic and procedural standpoint, is that they could hold out for full pardons from SECNAV, but I don’t see that as likely, since it would eviscerate their credibility. Maybe the lack of eyewitnesses will make the prosecution reluctant to proceed, as the majority of prosecutors, military and civilian (I’ve been both), hate more than anything to lose in front of a jury/panel. Too few take to hear the job of a prosecutor: not to convict, but to ensure justice is done.

Colonel, USAFR


9 posted on 06/14/2015 11:32:56 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: jagusafr

hear = heart


10 posted on 06/14/2015 11:33:26 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: jagusafr

And on that last, Marilyn Mosby would appear to be the modern poster child of one who doesn’t take it to heart.


11 posted on 06/14/2015 11:36:20 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Pollster1

“...the only thing that keeps me from being even more disgusted is confusion.”

I used to have (and may still somewhere) a t-shirt that said, “I used to be disgusted, now I’m just amused.”

It would probably still fit, but, alas, I’m not amused any more.


12 posted on 06/14/2015 11:55:05 AM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: jagusafr

Remember the good Ole days when people were only tried once for a crime.


13 posted on 06/14/2015 2:04:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

If I understand correctly, the conviction was overturned on appeal. I’m assuming that the appeal would have been at the request of the accused.


14 posted on 06/14/2015 2:09:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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