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--well--the J-S has finally found one in 200,000 plus concealed carry permittees doing wrong---
1 posted on 06/12/2015 5:14:51 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

—thanks to a poster after the article it’s “1 person out of 242,488.”—


2 posted on 06/12/2015 5:19:28 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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I can’t believe this sort of debate still goes on. I can remember reading about how back in about 1987 or thereabouts when Florida became among the first states to issue concealed permits to law abiding citizens on an increased scale, one police chief said he would arm his officers with machine guns. Along with that, the friendly neighbourhood media warned about gun fights starting over fender benders and supermarket check out line incidents. Were there any incidents like this? No. After a while, some politicians and police chiefs even admitted publicly their fears of mayhem involving permit holders turned out to be completely unfounded.


3 posted on 06/12/2015 5:19:54 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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I don’t mind if criminals have concealed carry permits (or better, if all of us are permitted to carry without a permit). Criminals will carry even if it’s illegal (hint for liberal lurkers: criminals don’t mind breaking the law). What concealed carry does is allow decent, law-abiding citizens to carry too, which levels the playing field. And if more criminals get shot and killed during what they thought would be easy robberies/rapes, I’m okay with that.


4 posted on 06/12/2015 5:21:04 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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What really gets me is that up here in Canada, a fair bit of the anti-gun lecturing involves about how our country should never be like southern redneck areas like Florida or Texas. Yet in places like Vermont and Maine that are well within a few hours’ driving time from Ottawa and Montreal, the firearms laws are so casual (Vermont does not require a permit to carry)and are accompanied by murder rates at the same level or even lower than Canadian ones.


5 posted on 06/12/2015 5:28:36 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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God made men. Samuel Colt made then equal.


6 posted on 06/12/2015 5:32:26 AM PDT by x1stcav (Why does Eleanor Clift always look like her private parts are causing her acute pain?)
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All firearms laws, local, state or federal, violate the 2nd ammendment and all should be removed from the books.


7 posted on 06/12/2015 5:38:26 AM PDT by exnavy (socialism and communism are indistinguishable.)
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Dear Stupid Police Chief......... in your profession all those you contact are considered to be possibly armed. BTW criminals do carry guns, licensed or not.....you friggin idgit polidiot !


9 posted on 06/12/2015 5:52:05 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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Two comments:

(1) When the Wisconsin concealed carry law was being passed the opponents said Wisconsin would become like “the gunfight at OK Corral”. They warned about greatly increased gun violence from CCW people. The violence never came, so they are desperate to create “hit pieces” that condemn CCW.

It’s revealing that the bad CCW guy they trot out is a gang banger.

(2) The Milwaukee Police Chief has a big problem: The violent crime rate is very high and rising. The Chief is a crazy liberal, so he won’t look for root causes. Instead, he blames guns.

Milwaukee is a liberal bastion and has long been controlled by Democrats. It is said to be America’s most segregated city and the crime is predominantly black on black.

There are plenty of gun laws, which have no impact on criminals. Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark is a conservative gun advocate and drives the liberals crazy.


11 posted on 06/12/2015 6:10:45 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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The Constitution does not debar criminals the use of arms unless they are in custody. “No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”* It does say “shall not be infringed”; permits and registration are clear infringements.

Anyone who cannot be trusted with a weapon should not be running around loose.

*No, that’s not part of the Constitution, it’s a comment on the God-given right by Jefferson proposed in the Virginia Constitution. And a valid comment in relation to the US Constitution.


12 posted on 06/12/2015 6:11:03 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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So, they found a rare “virgin” gangbanger that could pass a background check.

Now it’s time to start looking for three wise men among the Milwaukee police department brass.


16 posted on 06/12/2015 6:54:17 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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Gangs have been using this technique for many years now, even going so far as to bring along juveniles as gun carriers, with the idea that they are less likely to be searched by the police, and if they are caught with the gun, they face far less of a penalty than an adult with prior felony convictions.

However, the police are very aware of this trick as well. So if they search the adults, they also search the juveniles, and they carefully check the gun for DNA, far more likely to turn up after a shooting. Then they just test the adult’s hand for gunpowder residue.


19 posted on 06/12/2015 7:50:07 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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This is more a bad reflection on the Milwaukee police than an effective attack on CCW permit holders.

The cops knew this guy was a gangbanger and he was there at the scene of several crimes. If they were good cops, they could have nabbed him for something that would have canceled his CCW permit. Instead, they essentially ignored him until he did something so big they could no longer do that.


20 posted on 06/12/2015 10:01:58 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn has made no secret that he thinks criminals can and will obtain permits to carry hidden guns.

Uh...criminals are suddenly going to start obeying the law? Who knew?

22 posted on 06/12/2015 12:57:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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has a habit of turning up at shooting and homicide scenes, serving as a human holster.

It used to be women, and they were called "gun molls."

24 posted on 06/12/2015 5:36:52 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn has made no secret that he thinks criminals can and will obtain permits to carry hidden guns.

So the criminals are going to sign up and register their ILLEGALLY obtained firearms with the state. Sure they are.
25 posted on 06/12/2015 6:31:44 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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