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McKinney, Texas, and the Racial History of American Swimming Pools
The Atlantic ^ | 6/7/2015 | yoni appelbaum

Posted on 06/08/2015 7:06:57 AM PDT by SteveH

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To: SteveH
I am completely confused.

If the pool is privately owned or held as property of the HOA, then why would anyone who is not a member think they had any right to be there?

I have a pool in my yard. Am I now expected to welcome anyone who wants to drop by for swim? Do I have to feed them, too?

What does any of this have to do with segregated swimming?

41 posted on 06/08/2015 7:53:42 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: PGR88
And that divide is the most unchanging and immune to government fiat - culture. race.(There, fixed it)

Government can do a lot to change culture. For instance they have normalized homosexuality legally, which has profound effects on the culture. In this article the government has ended certain laws, and that is effecting the culture.

What government can't change is that race exists, and seems to influence behavior.

As to whether masses of blacks behaving badly is primarily a cultural or racial phenomena is hard to say. There are good arguments for culture, such as individual and groups of blacks that have assimilated to Western norms in various settings. But there are strong counter-arguments to the existence of very similar pathological behaviors in black communities that are widely separated. Black cities in America look more like African cities look more like the black sections of European cities than they do with white cities a hundred miles away.

So I think race is ultimately the more unchanging aspect of this.

42 posted on 06/08/2015 7:55:15 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Ebony

A good chance for you to use your high horse


43 posted on 06/08/2015 7:57:01 AM PDT by LouAvul (We've been sold down the river, and I can't swim.)
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To: SteveH

“And it took place at a communal pool—where, for more than a century, conflicts over race and class have often surfaced.”

No, they were on private property. Go back to the ghetto!


44 posted on 06/08/2015 7:59:39 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: SteveH

A Facebook post from a resident there ...

Facebook friends and family – PLEASE HELP! That (now viral) video of the officer in McKinney subduing a girl in a bathing suit was in OUR neighborhood. The situation was NOT what is being reported…

A DJ setup in a public space next to the private pool in our neighborhood on Friday and played loud explicit (F-bomb) music for multiple hours (it is unclear if he was invited by a resident as no one has claimed responsibility). The teenagers (both black and white) were being brought into our neighborhood by the carload because the DJ was tweeting out invites to a “pool party” for $15 (obviously unauthorized by our neighborhood). The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool. Some were jumping our fence. The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene. Some residents who live around the park/pool area tried to come out and settle things down. The teens started yelling racial slurs at our neighbors and started assaulting people and property (throwing bottles at cars and attacking a mother at the pool with 3 young children). The first officer on the scene was by himself. At that time, the party had grown to a large, aggressive crowd. As the officer arrived, many teens started running through our neighborhood. Many of the teens were being very aggressive and yelling at the officers as more arrived.

This was a very dangerous situation for the officers AND the teens/residents not involved. The news media has refused to hear the neighborhood’s side of this story. The video being distributed is only a very small segment of what happened. This information being distributed by the media and others is extremely distorted and in some cases outright lies.

PLEASE HELP US STOP THE BROADCASTING OF THIS IGNORANCE. The media is trying to make it look like our neighborhood is a white’s only, racist area. Anyone who has spent even a few minutes in our area knows this is an outright LIE.

The unfortunate result is that our neighbors are now being threatened. We have also had cars and property in and around the park area vandalized this weekend. Unfortunately, the press and social media are trying to enflame the situation.

I am asking for your help for my family and my neighbor’s safety…PLEASE, PLEASE do not rebroadcast any of these lies.


45 posted on 06/08/2015 8:03:11 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SteveH
Wow. The Atlantic sure threw that story together in a hurry.

I wonder if they were involved with the staging of the confrontation?

Nahhhhhhhhh!

46 posted on 06/08/2015 8:03:59 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SteveH

This is a private pool and a bunch of ‘teens’ went in uninvited and wouldn’t leave. When they cause a ruckus the police came. When the police started taking control of the situation the ‘teens’ swarmed an officer and he pulled his weapon. The cop is on suspension and I find it ridiculous. He did his job and was swarmed by feral youths. Watch the video and you’ll see.


47 posted on 06/08/2015 8:12:44 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Lorianne
....” the ‘uninvited’ people were misbehaving and drawing negative attention to themselves, they have only themselves to blame”....

We rented a public pool for a family members graduation....it was in “off hours”..... those who showed up uninvited were sent away.

Today's black population's youth are ‘taking’ what they can because they believe they can do so without repercussion's. These kids weren't invited and creating disturbances which the people of the neighborhood called the police for help. Rather than simply disperse, and is as their custom, they resisted and mouthed off.... Good for police they put them down!

48 posted on 06/08/2015 8:12:55 AM PDT by caww
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To: boycott

“Even the blacks don’t want to use them.”

Hell, even if they go to a nice pool, most “inner city” blacks can’t swim. They just all stand around in the shallow end splashing each other and screaming.

I don’t care if people think I’m racist for saying it, anyone who has seen it knows it is true!


49 posted on 06/08/2015 8:13:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Lorianne

The pool is private and belongs to the Homeowners Association. It is clearly posted that only residents may use the pool. However, what happens is that once somebody is in, they can go open the gate from the inside to let somebody else in. A big gang of thuggy nonresident teenagers who happened to be all or mostly black were let into the pool and starting causing huge trouble, getting into fights, harassing residents who tried to stop them, etc. Security was called and apparently couldn’t stop them. Then the cops were called to break it up.


50 posted on 06/08/2015 8:13:10 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (the left has redefined the word 'racism' to mean any disagreement with any liberal about any topic)
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To: Organic Panic

I saw the video and the one gal just kept on mouthing off and carrying on....they always do.

I’m so sick of the replays we constantly see in the black community among their people....and it’s not going to change.


51 posted on 06/08/2015 8:14:27 AM PDT by caww
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To: LouAvul
A good chance for you to use your high horse

Are you saying they shouldn't protect their private property?

52 posted on 06/08/2015 8:15:44 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: SteveH

Whenever a leftist writes a story like this, someone needs to put this in the comments section:

To all progressive socialists: So how’s that Tower of Babel thing working out for you?


53 posted on 06/08/2015 8:17:57 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: SteveH
I was a security guard at a beach resort for several years. There was, of course, a pool. From time to time crowds of negroes would invade the resort, coming up from the beach or even over the wall and all go into the pool and harass the renters out of the pool with loud claims that it was their pool by right. When the police came there would be loud cries of police abuse and civil rights and police have no right to remove them. Fortunately they did not seem to have the forethought to notify the tv stations of their intended lark or surely it would have been briefly on the MSM. When they were removed the pool would have to be drained and disinfected because a number of the invaders had used it for a toilet while they were frolicking. Some small group of them would break down the door to the hottub and trash that, too with as many of them getting into it as physically possible. The resultant bathroom odor was followed for several days by the smell of strong disinfectant.

These people were none of them locals but "visiting students" on summer vacation or claimed to be. The age range was young teenage to middle aged.

54 posted on 06/08/2015 8:21:52 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: SteveH

This was a “private” pool for the neighborhood. I heard the rules are you can invite “two” guests. But normally, it’s not a problem. These neighborhood pools are quite normal in North Texas.

I live in a suburb of Dallas about 30 miles West of McKinney. I just hate stories of teenagers in the news at all. And the last thing this place needs to have is the entire world paying attention to them.

These teenagers (black and white) already think the world revolves around them.

But this cop was out of control.


55 posted on 06/08/2015 8:23:49 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The racism comes from the fact that those white people owe them and the interlopers have a natural right to whatever other people have that they don't have. that's "equality."
56 posted on 06/08/2015 8:24:02 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: a fool in paradise
If I saw this fighting on my corner you dang well should know I'd be calling the police as well....and be glad to see them ground them. They weren't just "standing around".


57 posted on 06/08/2015 8:24:43 AM PDT by caww
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To: LouAvul

Get lost with your PC envy. It doesn’t belong on a Conservative board.


58 posted on 06/08/2015 8:28:17 AM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS,)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Problem is that some of the black kids do live in the community....Oops. The whole thing was rather nasty.....some of those folks need to be arrested and that one cop fired for sure.


59 posted on 06/08/2015 8:29:11 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Texas Eagle

The Atlantic isn’t known for journalistic excellence.

When Bush was president, there was a hit piece that led off with a line about George W. Bush’s team the Houston Astros playing at crony corporatist Ken Lay’s Enron field. When notified that Bush owned the Rangers, not the Astros, the line was changed to that team. When informed that the Rangers play at a field in Arlington and that the Astros play in Houston (at Enron, now Minute Maid Park), the opening paragraph was edited once again.


60 posted on 06/08/2015 8:29:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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