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Dennis Hastert: When It’s a Crime to Withdraw Your Own Money From Your Bank
New York Times ^ | 06/07/2015 | Josh Barro

Posted on 06/07/2015 5:39:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Dennis Hastert has not been indicted on a charge of sexual abuse, nor has he been indicted on a charge of paying money he was not legally allowed to pay. The indictment of Mr. Hastert, a former House speaker, released last week, lays out two counts: taking money out of the bank the wrong way, and then lying to the F.B.I. about what he did with the money.

Does that make sense? Conor Friedersdorf of The Atlantic, for example, is worried that the indictment constitutes government overreach, punishing Mr. Hastert for concealing payments whose disclosure he may have thought would be damaging to his reputation, but which were not illegal.

Federal prosecutors allege Mr. Hastert was paying hush money in exchange for wrongdoing that happened long ago.

But Mr. Hastert is charged with structuring: making repeated four-figure cash withdrawals from his bank in order to avoid the generation of cash transaction reports, which banks are required to send the government about every transaction over $10,000. These reports have been required since 1970, with the intention of helping the federal government identify organized criminals and tax evaders.

To be clear: It’s not illegal simply to take $8,000 out of the bank repeatedly.

“The criminal provisions there do have strong mens rea (criminal intent) requirements: The government has the burden to prove that the defendant knew about the reporting requirement and intended to evade it,” said Jim Copland, who directs the Center for Legal Policy at the Manhattan Institute, a right-of-center think tank. “So this is quite unlike many of the regulatory crimes that can ensnare the unsophisticated.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bank; blackmail; dennishastert; extortion; government; structuring; wod
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To: Yaelle

Indeed, because one can be sure that if one runs as a republican and is a corrupt perv, one will be crucified and made an example of.


41 posted on 06/07/2015 8:27:34 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: Alberta's Child
"Hastert is being prosecuted for violating a Federal law that passed while he was Speaker...."

Wrong...

He was not elected to House until '87; the Bank Secrecy Act was passed in '70.

42 posted on 06/07/2015 8:29:51 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: lavaroise

You like it when we have pervs on our side as long as they tap quietly in airport restrooms, and molest their students discreetly?


43 posted on 06/07/2015 8:31:54 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: stinkerpot65

They’re probably “to gutless to fight it” because someone/some entity has dirt on most of them...


45 posted on 06/07/2015 8:41:04 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Parley Baer

” I think the law was more intended to be for money being deposited into a back account in order to launder the money.”

The problem is, that it was just a GREAT idea when “only criminals” and/or “dope dealers” were doing it...the occasional innocent people who were ensnared by it were just “collateral damage”, I guess...no doubt, the government quickly and cheerfully unfroze their accounts with an apology when the small matter was cleared up... </s>


46 posted on 06/07/2015 8:54:10 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Hastert was the 59th Speaker of the United States House of Representatives for 8 years.

He had a chance to change the law but he didn't.

He should get no sympathy now, the filthy pervert.

47 posted on 06/07/2015 9:07:55 PM PDT by donna (That is not my culture; please, respect my culture!)
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To: Vermont Lt

How the hell did he come up with $3.5 m?
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That should be the focus here. If for nothing else than to shine the light and having them flee like cockroaches when it comes on.

How does a struggling HS teacher who (probably) supplemented his income by being a wrestling coach, then (BARF ALERT) becoming a Public Servant for many years get to ‘save’ that much money in his ‘political career’. Must have had hands in cookie jar or sold his seat to the highest bidder. (We know that is rule of the day etc) That is the fact that should be rammed down the publics throat.
Has Corzine been indicted or sanctioned yet? Have the Clintons been indicted or sanctioned? Not really enough space to list ALL the Pols that should be ‘guests of the state’ - at the very least. Leavenworth can use the business.


48 posted on 06/07/2015 9:08:02 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)'History will be kind to me for I intend to write it...W. Churchill')
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To: Angel Martin
Let me explain something to you.

PRESIDENT Bill Clinton lied in the face of a federal judge.

That's TEN YEARS, RIGHT NOW for a peasant. How many years did Clinton serve, again?

I'm beginning to think that this Hastert deal is just one of those "Buckle up for safety" commercials that they did before they got the CLICKITERTICKET laws passed.

Teh Authoritays don't like cash - unless THEY'RE using it for some criminal activity...

49 posted on 06/08/2015 12:05:03 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: diogenes ghost

I was under the impression that these were violations of the Patriot Act. If not, then I stand corrected.


51 posted on 06/08/2015 2:07:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ( "It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: BJ1

Hastert is a lobbyist right now. Maybe the $3.5M cash payments were a way to funnel money to public officials behind the façade of this “hush money” story.


52 posted on 06/08/2015 2:15:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ( "It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

When questioned regarding structuring, an honest answer to investigators would have stopped any prosecution. By lying he committed the crime.

I don’t know about the ‘legality’ of payoffs for blackmail, but had he not lied, he’d only have had the stigma to deal with instead of that plus the legal indictment.

It boils down to him being a lying hypocritical scumbag RINO deigning to ‘lead’ us all. Couple that with the ability to amass $3.5million for a sex payoff and none of this turns out good for him.

It just makes me think back on all the good thinks those RINOs might have done back then and didn’t. Now I see why. I wonder what bones Boehner and McConnell have in their bags.


53 posted on 06/08/2015 3:55:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: lavaroise

Agreed. I wonder whether the Hastert thing is yet another warning that anyone can be arrested for anything at anytime?


54 posted on 06/08/2015 4:05:28 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: tallyhoe

RE: You can withdraw money but under $10,000.00 and not too often! This is an old Bill Clinton law!

1) It would not have become law had Congress not passed it. And who was in control of Congress when Clinton was President and who was the Speaker?

2) This is a law that INCREASES government involvement in our lives, it should be repealed.


55 posted on 06/08/2015 4:47:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Angel Martin
my point is scumbag politicians in both parties should not be given a pass like democrats, they should all be nailed like republicans are.

Good point, but it ain't happening.

Hillary Clinton committed MULTIPLE felonies in the email server deal (obstruction). She been arrested yet?

56 posted on 06/08/2015 6:02:07 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: SeekAndFind
He could have simply wrote the dude checks and nothing would have happened. Not only did he try to ‘conceal’ this from .gov financial penalties, but more so he was keeping this away from his wife.

It is more telling about that. I'm sure his wife had no idea about this 3.5 mil he had or was not involved in the finances of the family. sad.

57 posted on 06/08/2015 6:09:11 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: peyton randolph; Blood of Tyrants
The “War on Drugs” excuse has now morphed into the “War on Terrorism” mantra.

Whatever persuades the sheep to surrender the liberties our Founding Fathers fought and died for.

58 posted on 06/08/2015 7:00:46 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1993-1995 I think was Tom Foolery from Washington!!


59 posted on 06/08/2015 10:34:10 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a law that INCREASES government involvement in our lives, it should be repealed.

I agree fully!!!


60 posted on 06/08/2015 10:35:53 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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