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To: Brad from Tennessee

Still doesn’t justify using Stop and Frisk. Crapping on the Constitution to drop crime is wrong. The Patriot Act is wrong for the same damn reasons. Why conservatives support Stop and Frisk and the Patriot act is way beyond me.


4 posted on 05/26/2015 10:37:24 AM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: sean327

I Totally agree. If the only safety measures New Yorkers are willing to accept are fascistic big government tactics they deserve to rot in a crime ridden sewer.


8 posted on 05/26/2015 10:45:40 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: sean327

But “broken windows” policing is justified.

Also stopped by DeBlasio.

And if I were a NYC cop, I’d be more of a report-filler-outer than a crime stopper. Why risk my freedom to save the ungrateful?


9 posted on 05/26/2015 10:51:07 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: sean327

It’s not Stop and Frisk.

It’s Stop, Question and, if indicated, Frisk.

Big Frisking difference that the opponents NEVER EVER EVER mention.


12 posted on 05/26/2015 10:58:00 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: sean327

Sorry, but you’re misinformed. The media has twisted what SQ&F is. Is it perfect? No. But the reason it worked so well was the BELIEF by the criminals that the cops were just stopping anyone at random. That made them leave their guns at home or in their car. Now that the media has done its job and vilified the cops as well as taken the teeth out of SQ&F, criminals are carrying again. Drug dealers and pimps or just the guys who like to rob old ladies. This is so far from a 2A issue it’s not even funny. So you may want to rethink your position.


15 posted on 05/26/2015 11:06:40 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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