Posted on 05/22/2015 9:25:57 AM PDT by wardaddy
“The one thing that is clear is that 98% of what he posts is utterly false.”
Former Bandidos Winterhalder says the gang fight was not unexpected given the feud between the Bandidos and the Cossacks.
The National Coalition of Motorcyclists (parent of coalition that hosted the meeting) issued a press release saying “a motorcycle club that was NOT a member of the Confederation of Clubs arrived with over 50 people and attacked members of the Confederation.”
Biker witnesses at Twin Peaks have gone on the record as it being started by a fight between two ‘clubs’.
Do you agree or disagree with them?
Another:
The family of one of the slain bikers say they don’t fault the police. The say that the police actions probably saved lives.
This is interesting:
“Eyewitnesses told the Waco Tribune that the Cossacks was the uninvited group.
Speaking to the Tribune, Steve Cochran, who had gone to the scene to set up a sound system for the Texas Confederacy of Clubs and Independents event, said that the Cossacks have never been part of the event, yet around 60 of them turned up on their bikes.
‘They rode en masse to that meeting for the sole purpose of creating some kind of trouble,’ he said.
But he added that there are no Bandidos in Waco - a city where there are Cossacks.
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I disagree with all of the crap that you have dislodged from your bodily orifices.
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This earth contains many things that reflect aspects of God, or how the devil has stolen them for his own selfish glory.
Christian gospel riders come at the matter from a different standpoint. This is about reclaiming what the devil had claimed and offering it back to God. They do not rail at 1%ers but rather urge them to ride God’s way; to declare Jesus rather than Satan as their master.
One way they do this is to urge grace. Revenge is easy. It also is a thing that will come boomeranging right back at you, per the divine declaration itself. But grace is repaid too.
In this coarse, worldly brawl, sometimes people don’t see this.
One always has to ask “in comparison to what.” And also “in what light” i.e. are they just swallowing police declarations whole or are they looking for all the possible data.
Calling off the meeting at which they had advance warning of brawl conditions would have meant zero deaths.
I guess that was too good huh.
“are they just swallowing police declarations whole”
I would think that the family of a Cossack would be networked with the bikers so that they would have a lot better understanding of the situation than you do.
“I disagree with all of the crap that you have dislodged from your bodily orifices.”
I didn’t ask if agreed with me. I asked if you believed:
1. The press release of the National Coalition Motorcyclists
2. Public statements by bikers at the scene
3. Edward Winterhalder, founder of the OC chapter of the Bandidos
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>> “ They do not rail at 1%ers but rather urge them to ride God’s way; to declare Jesus rather than Satan as their master.” <<
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Interestingly, the few percenters that I have had occasion to know on any personal level have freely preached the word of God as their belief.
They seem to be libertarian, and far from criminal. Some hold jobs with a mind mindbogglingly complex level of responsibility.
Riding with a club seems to be just a form of relaxation.
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I’d be wary, just because the 1% organizations are so tolerant of glaring miscreants.
If I am a gospel biker I will ride with gospel colors.
Wise bikers always acknowledge God because we’re all just one careless left-turn away from meeting Him.
And then there are the foolish ones who count on Satan.
There are a lot of stereotypes floating around that have little basis in reality.
Some view all club members as demonic miscreants, and while there certainly are a few out there, it is mostly undeserved.
Its been over 40 years since I sold my bikes, so I could be out of step.
Biker on Glenn Beck show:
“The outlaw motorcycle gangs call themselves 1 percent,” he explained. “They’re the ones that own territory. And whatever business they do, they do their business. And if you want to hang out in those areas and ride as a motorcycle lover, you have to get — go through those landlords.”
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>> “And then there are the foolish ones who count on Satan” <<
You must be speaking of congresscritters. :o)
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I’ve seen some nightmare stories, like patches earned for hit jobs (murders) on rival gangs/clubs.
My goal isn’t to “demonize” because if I did that fairly I would have to demonize all humanity. The sins of bad biker clubs are easy to see. Our own sins, not so easy. But all will damn to hell unless salvation intervenes.
The 1%ers are an old, incorporated club that owns some trademarks.
I’d watch out if I were you.
“we’re all just one careless left-turn away from meeting Him.”
we’re all just one careless left-turn or a few beers away from meeting Him.
You drink poison beers?
All such bike clubs are infiltrated with brave LEOs. If such patches are earned, retribution will follow. A few “Hells Angels” have collided with that reality.
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