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Alberta Elects NDP Majority Government; Ends Tories’ 44-Year Reign
American Prowler ^ | 5.5.15 | Aaron Goldstein

Posted on 05/05/2015 9:19:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Bulwyf

And there in lies the problem...same has and will happen here. Establishment GOP vs. Conservatives. Idiots on the left take the spoils because of infighting on the right


21 posted on 05/05/2015 9:51:52 PM PDT by DallasGal (Firecat I am)
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To: nickcarraway

See? Massive third world immigration is an effective way of getting the moonbats elected. Goodbye Alberta economy.


22 posted on 05/05/2015 9:53:29 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: nickcarraway

Speaking of Wendy? If so, I have nothing nice to say about her.


23 posted on 05/05/2015 9:53:46 PM PDT by DallasGal (Firecat I am)
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To: Bulwyf

But the Progressive Con-something is gone now. Something better can replace it.


24 posted on 05/05/2015 9:53:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: Nextrush

Alberta wasn’t that conservative compared to American conservatism


25 posted on 05/05/2015 9:54:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: doc1019
Not being familiar with Canadian politics. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

It's bad, but don't be fooled. The "Progressive Conservatives" are also left wing. It's just that the NDP is far to the left of that. There are no major right-wing or conservative parties in Canada.

26 posted on 05/05/2015 9:55:11 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: doc1019
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

The NDP was (and maybe still is AFAIK) a member of Socialist International.

27 posted on 05/05/2015 9:56:25 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: nickcarraway

hmmm, same thing could happen in the UK with the ruling Conservative Party not being really Conservative.

Notice when Conservative Parties move to the Left they always lose power to the hardcore Leftists.


28 posted on 05/05/2015 10:02:35 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: nickcarraway; Impy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; randita; BillyBoy

Communist NDPs replace Socialist PCs in Alberta, film at 11.


29 posted on 05/05/2015 10:04:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: nickcarraway

The more frightening aspect, as cited in the article, will be true-believing Communist moonbat university student snots (as young as 21) holding cabinet portfolios as elected provincial MPs. Yet another reason why the minimum age to hold office ought to be 25-30 across the board. Few individuals have the life experience at that age to be entrusted with that level of power.


30 posted on 05/05/2015 10:09:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: steve86; doc1019
You have to ask? Didn’t see the word ‘socialist’?

Well, yes and no. This is analogous to if the GOPe got trounced so bad that while the Dems won, the Constitution Party were now the "other party".

31 posted on 05/05/2015 10:12:43 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; nickcarraway; Impy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; randita
Confusing.

I thought the "Progressive Conservatives" were defunct in Canada after Stephen Harper lead an effort to "unite the right" a decade ago and merged the PC's and Reform Party of Canada into the new "Conservative Party of Canada", which runs the government today.

Perhaps the "Progressive Conservatives" still exist at the Province level?

In any case, it can't look good for the Prime Minister to see his home province fall to the far-left, especially considering Alberta's reputation as the "most conservative" province in Canada.

32 posted on 05/05/2015 11:06:43 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Nextrush
Re: “Having the NDP win in Alberta is like having the Socialists winning in Texas.”

With our current mass legal immigration policy - plus no enforcement of illegal immigration laws - the Socialist takeover of Texas is not too far off.

Whites - 44.0%
Hispanics - 38.4%
Blacks - 12.4%

A number of things have stalled the Socialist insurrection.

Texas whites have the highest voter eligibility, the highest turnout, and they vote close to 80% for Republican candidates.

Texas Blacks have lower voter eligibility (more children, and more felony convictions), and their turnout is lower than whites.

Texas Hispanics have much lower voter eligibility (the Census counts all Hispanics present in the state, including legal non-citizens and illegals), plus Hispanic turnout is lower than both Blacks and whites, and even lower in non-presidential elections.

Some people claim that Texas Hispanics are more Conservative than elsewhere. That may be true, especially in low turnout off year elections, or with popular local boys like GW Bush. In general, though, I think the data show that Texas Hispanics vote around 60%-65% for Democrats.

Since Hispanics are the fastest growing group in Texas, that number is not favorable for Conservatives.

33 posted on 05/05/2015 11:07:30 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: BillyBoy; GeronL; AuH2ORepublican; dfwgator; fieldmarshaldj; Alberta's Child; nickcarraway; ...

Yes, the Progressive Conservatives still exist on the provincial level in Alberta, Ontario, Manitoba and the Maritime provinces, where they exist they are the main center-right party. In Saskatchewan they disbanded and combined with with the right wing of the local Liberal party to form “The Saskatchewan Party”.

The Canadian Alliance/Reform party never had provincial level parties (outside of one in Ontario that existed only on paper) and the CPC doesn’t have any. NPD is the only federal party to have uniform provincial equivalents in every province save Quebec. There is a Liberal party in every province as well but in some they are no longer affiliated with the federal Liberals. At the provincial level in BC the Liberals are the main center-right party, the local Conservative party hasn’t won a provincial seat since 1978, they were the PCs but they dropped the P in 1991), they had a comeback in the polls but failed to win a seat in the last election, getting under 5% in the end. In Quebec the provincial Liberals are also not affiliated with the Federal liberals are considered center-right for Quebec (with a more leftist wing).

In Alberta they are opposed from the right by the Wildrose Party since they’ve been rather CINO lately, Wildrose led in the polls in the last election but lost due to NPD/Liberal voters voting for the PCs to keep them out. Then their leader defected to PCs.

Anyway this is goddamn disaster for Alberta.

Wildrose is now the official opposition with twice as many seats as the PCs. I can’t find the popular vote figures but this was obviously caused by the vote splitting on the right and the Liberals voting NPD. The vote split needs to end. The left wing of the PCs can FOAD while their right wing joins with Wildrose. This needs to be a 1 term disaster.


34 posted on 05/05/2015 11:34:50 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: GeronL

Alberta was once a rural farming ranching type of place with cow towns like Calgary and Edmonton, then came the oil boom. From the Great Depression until 1971 the ruling party was called Social Credit and among its famous leaders “Bible Bill” Aberhart who was a Fundamentalist Christian preaching the Word every Sunday on the radio and then serving as Premier of Alberta.

Social Credit believed in controlling banks and giving everyone money to spend so the economy would be stimulated.

The Progressive Conservatives fit the big business oil boom era in Alberta, but they were “Progressive” and among their achievements over the years was the establishment of the “Human Rights Commission” that ended up imposing fines on people who wrote letters to newspapers critical of homosexuality and gay marriage and printed things critical of Islam.

The Wildrose Party is the new force in Alberta and no doubt their splitting the vote with the RINO party helped the NDP
socialists win tonight. So be it....

Heck, God is ultimately in control last time I checked....


35 posted on 05/05/2015 11:56:36 PM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, DON'T BE PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: nickcarraway
This was a punish-the-ruling-party event. The PCs had been in power for 42 years, spending every penny of the massive oil revenue coming into government coffers. When the oil industry hit the fan, the game was up. The PCs tried to cover the shortfall by raising all kinds of fees, and then literally blamed the people of Alberta for the problems caused by the government. People were fed up with the PCs, and some conservatives reportedly crossed over to vote for the NDP because they figured it would get the rogue party our of power, and that an NDP government couldn't be much worse.

We'll now see whether the NDP remains constrained by Alberta's relative conservatiivsm, or whether they'll adopt Obama's "I won" approach and go for full-out socialism as fast as they can.

36 posted on 05/06/2015 12:40:14 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty

It could have been worse. In the 1993 Canadian federal election, the federal Progressive Conservative Party was reduced from a strong majority government to only two seats in Parliament. A complete rout.

The U.S., at least federally, has never had a comparable wipeout election.


37 posted on 05/06/2015 12:47:46 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Impy

So do you see this as one-term growing pains (divided vote) that reflects a shift to the right in Alberta, or does this reflect a general trend to the left in Alberta?

This election is clearly bad for Alberta in the short term but I wonder about the longer term trend. If the fundamentals are there, then it seems like this could just be a pause to shed old skin so to speak. Hopefully it’s that and not a leftward ratchet click.


38 posted on 05/06/2015 1:34:33 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nickcarraway

I cannot believe this. What the hell has happened to
Albertans?


39 posted on 05/06/2015 3:25:02 AM PDT by pugmama
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To: doc1019

Bad thing


40 posted on 05/06/2015 3:39:31 AM PDT by Ultima
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