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Immigration: The only time the GOP cares about the working class
The Week ^ | April 28, 2015 | Jeff Spross

Posted on 04/28/2015 3:14:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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Scott Walker: The Left Never Stops

:..........There are 414,600 public-sector employees in Wisconsin, and it’s safe to say that few would call Mr. Walker their favorite person. The governor recalls a visit to one elementary school where a teacher asked, “Why do you hate teachers so much?”

He said his response was: “I’m not attacking teachers. The ones who make you feel under attack are your union. It’s in their best interest to get people pumped up.”...... quote from: Wisconsin's Legacy for Unions [NYT]

1 posted on 04/28/2015 3:14:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

GOP America needs lots of new jobs.

We have sent far, far too many American jobs to China.

(not blaming the GOP exclusively for the problem, just saying the GOP needs to be the solution)

Bring them back.


2 posted on 04/28/2015 3:19:06 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“(not blaming the GOP exclusively for the problem, just saying the GOP needs to be the solution)”

The push for changing our trade laws began under President George H.W. Bush. He was a big proponent of globalization, particularly expanding trade with China and Mexico. NAFTA and tariff reduction in general were big initiatives of his administration. NAFTA was negotiated by Bush, and signed by Clinton. By 2001 the trade deficit with Mexico and Canada was 12 times the size it was at the time Bush negotiated the agreement.

Clinton continued the Bush policies. He signed NAFTA. The final round of GATT tariff reductions occurred during his first term. The WTO replaced GATT in his second term. In 1999 he signed a huge trade bill with China. Over 300 tariff reduction agreements were signed with other nations under Clinton.

George W. Bush continued the “free trade” policies. He signed CAFTA (NAFTA for the Caribbean). China became a member of the WTO. A number bilateral trade agreements were signed by Bush. His free trade agreements with South Korea, Columbia, and Panama were held up by the Senate.

Obama is continuing the push with the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) and proposal for a free trade agreement with the European Union. Under his administration the agreements with South Korea, Panama, and Columbia were renegotiated and signed. He campaigned to renegotiate NAFTA but nothing has been done to change NAFTA.

The record shows both parties have been aggressive facilitators of open markets, low tariffs, and export of US jobs. Don’t count on Jeb Bush to be involved in any solution to return jobs to the US.


3 posted on 04/28/2015 4:17:48 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“(not blaming the GOP exclusively for the problem, just saying the GOP needs to be the solution)”

The push for changing our trade laws began under President George H.W. Bush. He was a big proponent of globalization, particularly expanding trade with China and Mexico. NAFTA and tariff reduction in general were big initiatives of his administration. NAFTA was negotiated by Bush, and signed by Clinton. By 2001 the trade deficit with Mexico and Canada was 12 times the size it was at the time Bush negotiated the agreement.

Clinton continued the Bush policies. He signed NAFTA. The final round of GATT tariff reductions occurred during his first term. The WTO replaced GATT in his second term. In 1999 he signed a huge trade bill with China. Over 300 tariff reduction agreements were signed with other nations under Clinton.

George W. Bush continued the “free trade” policies. He signed CAFTA (NAFTA for the Caribbean). China became a member of the WTO. A number bilateral trade agreements were signed by Bush. His free trade agreements with South Korea, Columbia, and Panama were held up by the Senate.

Obama is continuing the push with the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) and proposal for a free trade agreement with the European Union. Under his administration the agreements with South Korea, Panama, and Columbia were renegotiated and signed. He campaigned to renegotiate NAFTA but nothing has been done to change NAFTA.

The record shows both parties have been aggressive facilitators of open markets, low tariffs, and export of US jobs. Don’t count on Jeb Bush to be involved in any solution to return jobs to the US.


4 posted on 04/28/2015 4:18:03 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For those that don’t know, The Week is a typical leftist rag. Even their editors and publishers admit it. It’s for people who can still read, but can’t think for themselves. It’s best described as a “compiler.” It takes snippets from lots of sources from the MSM, abbreviates them and puts them all in a weekly format.

That aside, this article is also typically leftist, throws all conservative groups and candidates in one pot and paints them all the same. At this point, impugning any unified policy view to the GOP-e, evangelicals, Constitutional conservatives, and plain ol’ conservatives is simply wrong. We have candidates and groups all over the board on immigration and every other policy.

This guy wants to smear all with one broad brush without talking about the issue of immigration policy in objective detail. (Talking to a liberal will give you a headache.)

The value of the article is only in seeing what the left is up to.

That’s my opinion.

Oldplayer


5 posted on 04/28/2015 4:24:48 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Soul of the South

Both of our current political parties are selling-out American manufacturing.

Big time.

We need a new political party in America. With the principles of the GOP: standing up for individual freedoms, fighting for our rights. And economic issues of democrats like JOBS for all Americans.

That is what we need. Freedom and jobs.

Those are the things which neither political party in America is standing up for. Neither one.

Stand up GOP. Or prepare for a historic backlash.

Your choice.


6 posted on 04/28/2015 4:30:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: oldplayer

And their solutions are socialist solutions.

It’s important to read the lefty “rags.”

It’s reconnaissance: “military observation of a region to locate an enemy or ascertain strategic features”


7 posted on 04/28/2015 4:33:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The article’s author is a leftist. I guess this leftist wants a McDonald’s burger flipper to get $15/hour, which would help workers like a rivit gun would help patch the hole in the Titanic’s hull AFTER the hull split.
We need to return jobs back from Mexico, China and other places. We need to have a favorable tax policy so manufacturers will build factories.


8 posted on 04/28/2015 4:41:01 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m all for immigration. Let’s bring in persecuted Christians from Europe, Africa, and the Middle East.


9 posted on 04/28/2015 4:43:25 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Here’s an idea for some new jobs: Hire some people to deport illegals. Once that’s been accomplished, the job will go away. But, if as claimed by the pro-illegal crowd, these people are actually contributing and not just welfare leeches and criminals, all those jobs they are currently doing will open up.


10 posted on 04/28/2015 4:45:32 AM PDT by generally
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The article’s author is a leftist. .....

Yes. And this is the Left's solution to unemployment - BIG government dicates:

"..........We could break up the work the economy already provides into smaller chunks that can be distributed to more workers, through things like national paid leave mandates, paid vacation, strengthened overtime laws, and a shortened work week........Full employment should really be the top line goal, and it's what the first four of those five policy options aim at. (With an expanded social safety net and stronger unions also acting as a backstop for wages when full employment isn't reached.)...."

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The Left is enraged by what Scott Walker did in Wisconsin and they are about apoplectic that he has effectively appealed to American workers (fighting and winning).

11 posted on 04/28/2015 4:46:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He needs more ammunition for questions like this.

First of all, it’s a loaded question. Shovel in the word “hate”. Instant controversy.

Second, it’s a false premise. Few people hate teachers. Most of us have a problem with incompetent teachers, corrupt teachers, corrupt teachers’ unions. That’s a big difference.

He should turn it around and ask “Why do you love and want to reward incompetent teachers and corrupt teachers and teachers who have sex with students and teachers who embezzle?”


12 posted on 04/28/2015 4:51:08 AM PDT by generally
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To: generally

I think Walker handled it quite effectively.

I wonder if this was in front of a class?


13 posted on 04/28/2015 4:56:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ExCTCitizen

Why stop at $15? If that’s such a great idea, then wouldn’t $1000/hour be an even better idea? What makes $15 a magic number?

I’d like to see these people explain and defend their crackpot ideas with some sound reasoning. They never will because they can’t.

(P.S. The reason $15 was chosen is because it’s enough of a raise that they can get burger flippers excited and riled up about it. That’s all. There is no sound economic reason, only an emotional reason designed to get people agitated.)


14 posted on 04/28/2015 4:56:55 AM PDT by generally
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Stand up GOP. Or prepare for a historic backlash.”

The GOP has made its bed with the “too big to fail” Wall Street banks, multinational corporations, and Chamber of Commerce. They’ve abandoned small business and the American worker. Like the wealthy urban liberals of the left they have only contempt for the middle class and those who believe in individual liberty and the American dream. Jeb Bush, John McCain, Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, and John Boehner would prefer a dinner with the heads of any five major corporations to a church dinner with middle class American any flyover country town. I suspect Jeb’s father and his brothers are the same. Their affinity is with the wealthy elites of the globe, not with ordinary people.

It is going to take a new party to change the political system. Neither party is an advocate for the average working class American citizen. Both are completely corrupt. The path we are heading down at increasing speed leads either to dictatorship or revolution.


15 posted on 04/28/2015 4:59:18 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: generally

This lefty author has a different idea for their “sane world”:

“In a sane and decent world, we would open our borders as wide as humanly possible. Because letting other people immigrate to America makes their lives better; much better in many cases. And we would rely on all those other policy levers to keep the wages and jobs of immigrant and native-born Americans alike healthy and robust.” [all those socialist ideas he describes in his piece]


16 posted on 04/28/2015 5:12:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Election Day: The only time Democrats care about the working class.


17 posted on 04/28/2015 5:13:47 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Dr.Deth

Bada bing!


18 posted on 04/28/2015 5:14:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wow!

When lefties say things like that to me, I ask them why they don’t open the doors of their homes to anyone who wants to come in (and mooch, murder, rape, steal, destroy, ...). Few get it. Or they get it but pretend not to.

Also, in a sane and decent world where we value “diversity” and other cultures, why don’t we encourage that diversity and culture where it is? Again with the home analogy: If you really care about helping your neighbor, isn’t it better to help your neighbor fix his house than to have him move into yours?


19 posted on 04/28/2015 9:06:12 AM PDT by generally
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

>>”...given that pretty much every policy move by the Republican Party and the conservative movement seems designed to keep lower class incomes as depressed as possible.”<<

I almost quit reading when I ran across that line early in the article, and it turns out that I should have done exactly that.

Remember the name of the author, Jeff Spross, for future reference. What a complete idiot.


20 posted on 04/28/2015 9:28:30 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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