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Pope’s remarks ‘to accelerate Hagia Sophia’s conversion into mosque’
Hürriyet ^

Posted on 04/16/2015 4:55:45 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

Pope Francis’ labeling of the mass killings of the Ottoman Armenians as “the first genocide of the 20th century” will only accelerate the reopening of Hagia Sophia to Muslim worship, the top Islamic official in Ankara has suggested.

“Frankly, I believe that the pope’s remarks will only accelerate the process for Hagia Sophia to be re-opened for [Muslim] worship,” Professor Mefail Hızlı, the mufti of Ankara, said in a written statement released late April 15.

According to Hızlı, the pope’s statement “has reflected a modern color of the crusader wars launched in these lands for centuries.” These lands have long been the “standard bearer” of the Muslim world, meaning many enemies, both from inside and outside of the country, have been launching attacks with different methods.

“The statement that the Catholic world’s spiritual leader pope delivered three days ago, saying Armenians had been subjected to a genocide, is extremely spectacular,” Hızlı said, noting that the pope’s statement was intruding on the realm of historians and was hastily made.

Hızlı did not touch on the precise relationship between Francis, the leader of the world’s Catholics, and the Haghia Sophia, which served as a Greek Orthodox basilica until the Turkish conquest in 1453.

Armenia says up to 1.5 million Ottoman Armenians were killed in a genocide starting in 1915. Turkey denies that the deaths amounted to genocide, saying the death toll of Armenians killed during mass deportations has been inflated and that those killed in 1915 and 1916 were victims of general unrest during World War I.

Stressing that all sides, not just Armenians, suffered in Anatolia 100 years ago, Hızlı also recalled that the theme of the 2015 Holy Birth Week, marking the birth of Prophet Muhammad, was the “Prophet and the Moral of Coexistence.”

Debate over landmark’s status

The Hagia Sophia Museum was first dedicated as an Orthodox patriarchal basilica in 360. Until 1453 it served as the Greek Patriarchal cathedral of Constantinople. Following the city’s conquest by the Ottoman Empire, the building turned into a mosque in 1453 and remained so until 1931, when it was closed to the public for four years. It was reopened by the authorities of Turkey’s young Republic in 1935 as a museum.

The status of Istanbul’s Hagia Sophia has come under increasing scrutiny in recent years, with a number of campaigns to open it for Muslim prayers being initiated, despite suggestions that this would be disrespectful to the building’s past as a church.

Back in November 2013, Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arınç expressed his hope of seeing the Hagia Sophia be used as a mosque, already calling it the “Hagia Sophia Mosque” while speaking to reporters.

“We currently stand next to the Hagia Sophia Mosque … we are looking at a sad Hagia Sophia, but hopefully we will see it smiling again soon,” Arınç said at the time in a speech during the opening ceremony of a new Carpet Museum, located adjacent to the ancient Hagia Sophia complex.

First Quran recitation in 85 years

On April 10, a Muslim cleric recited the Quran in the Hagia Sophia for the first time in 85 years.

A passage from the Quran was recited late on April 10 at a ceremony in the Hagia Sophia to mark the opening of a new exhibition “Love of the Prophet” on the occasion of the 2015 Holy Birth Week.

It was read by Ali Tel, imam at the Ahmet Hamdi Akseki Mosque in Ankara.

The ceremony was attended by top Turkish officials including the country’s top cleric, President Mehmet Görmez of the Directorate General for Religious Affairs (Diyanet).


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1 posted on 04/16/2015 4:55:45 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The Muslims took over Christian Constantinople not the other way around. They are the usurpers. And we need a new crusade.....Right NOW.


2 posted on 04/16/2015 4:59:24 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

That’s laughable. “Muslims will now really treat Christians and Christianity badly now that the Pope recognized the Armenian genocide”! And that’s going to change what exactly? I’m not a fan of this Pope, especially not of his socialism and “Climate Change” BS, however in this instance he was much more gutsy than his predecessors....or he had much less to lose as Erdogan’s predecessors were much more moderate and friendly to the West, and the prior Popes might not have wanted to undercut them. Erdogan however has proven himself to be quite an Islamist, and there is no reason for the West to handle him with kid gloves.


3 posted on 04/16/2015 5:00:54 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The implication in the headline is that its the Pope’s fault that the Hagia Sophia is being once again desecrated. As if a building is more important than the truth.


4 posted on 04/16/2015 5:02:39 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Hey Hizli,

The Crusades were in response to 400 years of Muslim slaughter and conquest of Christians and Jews.

What do YOU call the 1915 Turkish slaughter of 1.5 million Christian Armenians?

Get your history straight and quit whining!


5 posted on 04/16/2015 5:05:21 AM PDT by G Larry (Hillary Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
“Frankly, I believe that the pope’s remarks will only accelerate the process for Hagia Sophia to be re-opened for [Muslim] worship,” Professor Mefail Hızlı, the mufti of Ankara, said in a written statement released late April 15.

What the fourth crusade started, the Muslims will finish.

6 posted on 04/16/2015 5:13:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Sounds like they found themselves a fine pretext, in a single word out of the Vatican.

The best contemporary account of the Armenian Genocide is free online. “Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story.” I found it at Google Books.

Morgenthau was the American ambassador to the Ottoman Empire during the years of WWI.


7 posted on 04/16/2015 5:17:59 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: DeaconBenjamin
No sane person can deny that Armenians were slaughtered. For civilization to survive, we have to be reminded of the past to avoid its horrors in the present and future.

What's my point? Pope Francis stirred the pot. That would've been fine if he went on to DEMAND that Christians all over the globe have as their first priority stopping the genocide against Christians that's going on today.

8 posted on 04/16/2015 5:21:03 AM PDT by grania
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Next year in Constantinople


9 posted on 04/16/2015 5:24:17 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: DeaconBenjamin
There are a number of options, any one of which would get the Muslims' attention, none of which sadly will occur. To present one possibility: tell PM Erdogan that any conversion of the Hagia Sophia into a mosque would bring about an immediate takeover and conversion of the Moschea di Roma into a cathedral--and to really stick it in their eye, to name it the Cathedral of St. Louis, after the canonized Crusader.
10 posted on 04/16/2015 5:24:24 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

They can reskin it all they want, the reality is the greatness that is this building could have never happened in the Muslim world.


11 posted on 04/16/2015 5:27:54 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Alex Murphy

Every one of us “infidels” should regard any Muslim we see as a ticking time bomb.

Their Koran informs them that they are superior and that “infidels” are property; our failure to acquiesce fills them with a burning rage.


12 posted on 04/16/2015 5:37:38 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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To: Vaquero

Good point.

The Pope needs to demand the church back from the muslims.


13 posted on 04/16/2015 5:52:15 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

You murdered 1.5 million Armenian Christians. Don’t get pissed when we mention it.


14 posted on 04/16/2015 6:01:36 AM PDT by struggle
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The Pope’s words didn’t accelerate anything. It’s subhuman savages who have nothing but hatred for Christians who did the accelerating.


15 posted on 04/16/2015 6:05:24 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: elcid1970

They are simply are doing what “their god”, whom Jesus said was from the beginning, “a liar, a thief, and a murderer”.

Allah = SATAN.


16 posted on 04/16/2015 6:27:01 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

And the Koran quotes Mohammed as saying that Allah is the greatest of all deceivers.

Quite the coincidence, is it not?


17 posted on 04/16/2015 7:28:52 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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