Posted on 04/09/2015 1:18:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
What about forcing nuns to have insurance that includes abortion and abortifacients....re ObamaCare for those who work in their charities?
Guess that’s what those FEMA camps are for?
Jailing “bigoted” Christian homophobes who stand up for God’s word rather than man’s evil desire’s eh?
With all due respect to mom & pop, please consider this. As a consequence of many generations of parents not making sure that their children are being taught about constitutional protections for both the states and citizens, activist judges have seized the opportunity to do the following.
Activist judges are not only robbing the states of their 10th Amendment-protected power to regulate things like marriage and abortion, some low-information state government “leaders” possibly not aware that the 10th Amendment exists imo, but low-information Christian business owners are likewise not able to defend their constitutionally enumerated protections from the states with Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.
Note that the ill-conceived 17th Amendment is also helping the corrupt, popularly elected federal Senate to work in cahoots with the corrupt House to steal state powers and state revenues associated with those powers from under the noses of state government leaders who evidently don’t understand the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers of Section 8 of Article I.
In fact, note that the Supreme Court has historically clarified that Congress is prohibit from laying taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue which Congress cannot justify under its Section 8-limited powers.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
The 17th Amendment needs to disappear.
If the velvet mafia was involved in the issue you can bet they would.Fags are running the show now.
“Twenty years ago did you think that same-sex marriage would one day be a ‘civil right?’”
Interesting question. My dad was a Baptist minister for 50 years. Back in the ‘80s he predicted that homosexual marriage would be the issue that would force Christians in to martyrdom in America.
Not yet but when religious belief about sexuality is defined as bigotry like Jim Crow in the Old South, as KKK and Nazi like the LGBT activists do right now, the sky is the limit in using government power for regulate churches.
I wonder what the response of the clergy you listed in your post will be, if and when their priests go to jail for refusing to marry same sex couples.
Cardinal Wuerl and other bishops PUNISH priests who deny Communion to LGBT people and pro-abortion people. These bishops are selling the Eucharist for government money.
There’s a vast difference between distributing Communion and officiating at a wedding. Marriage Preparation takes six to nine months. There are required courses in NFP and other matters. There are scheduled sessions with the priest, deacon, and others. There’s paperwork. In other words, there’s a lot more Church procedure to overturn if the Church is going to be pressured to do gay weddings. Not to mention that, even if the Church caves and does the weddings, then the homofascists would have to find a way to compel the Church to consider such “marriages” valid.
It was one thing to repeal Jim Crow laws, by which government compelled people to discriminate.
It was another to create protected classes of people against whom one may not PRIVATELY “discriminate.” Once there were “protected classes,” gay marriage was just a matter of time.
Christian money connections to the government has been a problem for religious freedom for a long time. “Civil rights” precludes freedom of association. Tax breaks have precluded freedom of speech in the political arena for “conservative” churches. If churches and schools and other Christian organizations, take no money or tax breaks from the government, the queer Feds have no legal leg to stand on.
Heterosexual Christian marriage is a sacrament; not a state thing. Stop permitting the state and secularism to horn in on religion and we will have a truer and more effective religion.
I forgot all about the marriage preparation. Many priests will simply resign if forced by their bishops to marry gays let alone suffer through hours of preparation (yuck). If at the time I belong to a Diocese that permits a gay wedding, I’m done with that Diocese and if it ever goes church-wide, I’ll be going to Society of Pius the Tenth services, but not before I raise some hell in my Parish and with my Knights Council.
If the RC Church decides to fight back, I support them unto jail or worse.
I don’t think the Catholic Church will cave on gay marriage. The process of marriage in the Church is just too formalized and legalized.
Besides, the bishops have already caved in by giving Communion to abortionists and gay couples. The Church is already neutralized. If gay couples can receive Communion, the Church is defeated, regardless of gay marriage.
The people who will MOST vulnerable to the homofascists are the walk-in Vegas-style wedding people. They have no docrine to defend, and no institution to defend them.
The Blessed Mother said at one of her (Fatima?) apparitions that there are plenty of clergy in Hell and going to Hell. To paraphrase Churchill the Bishops have decided to choose dishonor over persecution and all they have gotten is both with much much more to come. I just hate seeing so much corruption in nearly all our religious and secular institutions. God save us.
Imagining a gay couple sitting through instruction on NFP.
As I said, the Church isn’t going to be forced to do gay weddings. The bishops have preemptively surrendered by giving Communion to abortionists, adulterers, gay couples, etc.
There have been wise men in the last 200 years who saw how the Reformation and the French Revolution were destroying civilization. Newman was one. Chesterton was another. I get a kick out of people who say “the trouble all started in the 1960’s. They think civilization was in fine shape as long as men had short hair.
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