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Rev. Cruz: If Gay Marriage is ‘Civil Right,’ Gov’t Will Force Pastors to Obey Law or Face Prison
CNSNews.com ^ | 2015-04-09 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 04/09/2015 1:18:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

FULL TITLE: Rev. Cruz: If Gay Marriage is ‘Civil Right,’ Gov’t Will Force Pastors to Obey ‘Unjust’ Law or ‘Obey God and Face Prison’

If gay marriage is legally viewed as a “civil rights issue,” as may happen with the Supreme Court’s ruling on the subject in June, then it becomes a broader religious liberty concern, not just a marriage issue, said Reverend Rafael Cruz, adding that then pastors will have to choose between obeying an “unjust” law and obeying God and potentially going to prison.

Pastor Cruz, who is the father of Senator Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), made his remarks during an interview with conservative leader Phyllis Schlafly on her radio program “Eagle Forum Live.”

“We need to realize that the attack on marriage is more than just an attack on marriage, it actually goes to the heart of religious freedom,” said Pastor Cruz.

“Because, you see, what is going to come next -- and this is part of the danger of what may happen out of the Supreme Court in June -- is that if marriage of anybody-with-anybody becomes a civil rights issue,” he said, “then they are going to come to churches and force pastors to violate their religious convictions.”

“And so it is going to come to America to where a pastor is going to be faced with a decision: Do you obey a law that is not only unjust but violates your core principles, or do you obey God and face prison?” said Pastor Cruz.

 

gay marriage

 

“This is the dilemma that America’s pastors are going to be facing, if this issue is labeled a civil rights issue,” he said.  “It goes way beyond marriage to actually violate the religious freedom of people of faith.”

In June, the U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule on whether state bans on homosexual marriage are constitutional. Currently, same-sex marriage is legal in 37 states and illegal in 13 states.

Rev. Rafael Cruz fought against the Communists in Cuba, was arrested there and tortured.  He fled the island in 1957 at age 18. He eventually settled in Texas and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2005.  His Dallas-based church also operates Christian ministries in Mexico and Central America. His wife, Eleanor Wilson Cruz, was born in Wilmington, Del.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; homosexualagenda; liberalfascism; pastor; rafaelcruz; ssm; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 04/09/2015 1:18:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

if marriage of anybody-with-anybody “

that JUST about the size of it

God Bless this man!


2 posted on 04/09/2015 1:21:23 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

FULL TITLE: Rev. Cruz: If Gay Marriage is ‘Civil Right,’ Gov’t Will Force Pastors to Obey ‘Unjust’ Law or ‘Obey God and Face Prison’

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Absolutely. No doubt about it. We need only to look at how the military is threatening chaplains in the same way to see what the future will hold for Christian clergy.


3 posted on 04/09/2015 1:21:40 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If they start sending clergy to prison for refusing to perform gay marriages, there will be trouble.


4 posted on 04/09/2015 1:22:25 PM PDT by BigEdLB (They need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' which has nothing to do with virtue.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No way Ted, anymore than Dem appointed judges will force individual states to marry same-sex couples in defiance of state law.
Stop trying to incite paranoia. This is still America. People are not forced to do anything they don’t want here in this great country. We are ‘Pro-choice’.


5 posted on 04/09/2015 1:23:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We’ll see.

If the homosexual activists leave churches alone, then churches will not be forced to perform homosexual marriages.

Based on the liberal meltdown over the Indiana religious freedom bill, I expect liberals will want to take on churches over homosexual marriage. Once the Supreme Court imposes homosexual marriage on all 50 states, that will pave the way for lawsuits against churches.

Of course, none of this would be an issue, if the homosexual s were content with having won the battle over civil secular marriage in our society. It will only happen if they start suing churches over homosexual marriage.

Eventually, we may see churches decline to perform any marriages. They might perform a “matrimonial” ceremony in keeping with religious faith, however, the participants may then have to go to a justice of the peace for their marriage to be legally recognized. We’ll see about that also.


6 posted on 04/09/2015 1:25:12 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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That is the question...what the shekel do not get.. the government can then force nurses to preform abortions no matter their religious convictions, Muslims to strip off that hijab, Jews to sell hala meats ..and yes Pastors to preform gay weddings ..
7 posted on 04/09/2015 1:25:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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I agree. I hope the Supreme Court recognizes that the 14th Amendment was never meant to cover this issue.
We need to really pray for them to exercise God’s Wisdom.


8 posted on 04/09/2015 1:25:53 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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sheeple


9 posted on 04/09/2015 1:26:12 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: sickoflibs

Not Ted.


10 posted on 04/09/2015 1:27:29 PM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: RnMomof7
All Animals are Equal.

But some Animals are more equal than others.

11 posted on 04/09/2015 1:27:34 PM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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RE: Gov’t Will Force Pastors to Obey Law or Face Prison

I can see that happening Alinsky style.

Saul Alinsky did not propose change in one big bang. He proposed to do it slowly but surely and do it subtly, one institution at a time, starting with the weaker one.

So, I can see Military Chaplains (who are employees of the federal government ) being coerced first.

Then, after this is done, they can say, hey if it’s OK for the military chaplains, why can’t it be OK for churches (unless of course you want to have your tax exempt status revoked )...

etc. etc. etc.

Some people will laugh at this. But there used to be a time when killing a near born baby ( the one near full term ) was unthinkable.

Now, even Obama does not think it should be illegal to ban aborting the near born baby,

When Obama says he is “evolving” don’t believe it. His definition of “evolution” is exactly in Alinsky’s playbook.


12 posted on 04/09/2015 1:28:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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[“And so it is going to come to America to where a pastor is going to be faced with a decision: Do you obey a law that is not only unjust but violates your core principles, or do you obey God and face prison?” said Pastor Cruz.]

American pastors piously declare they’d go to prison before performing a gay wedding, but do nothing to prevent it from becoming reality. Words bear fruit.


13 posted on 04/09/2015 1:32:57 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Freedom of religion coming to an end in the US, and freedom of speech also has gone by the wayside. Right to assembly went away after you had to apply for a permit that could be turned down. Right to bear arms is under attack by the fascists. The erosion of the Bill of Rights by the Left Wing is almost complete.


14 posted on 04/09/2015 1:33:13 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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“Because, you see, what is going to come next -- and this is part of the danger of what may happen out of the Supreme Court in June -- is that if marriage of anybody-with-anybody becomes a civil rights issue,” he said, “then they are going to come to churches and force pastors to violate their religious convictions.”

I disagree. Here's one example why: It would clearly be unconstitutional for a state to prohibit interfaith marriages. No court would uphold such a law. But, at the same time, no court would force a pastor to perform an interfaith marriage.

I think the same thing is likely to happen here. Even if the Supreme Court rules that it is unconstitutional for a state to prohibit same-sex marriage, I don't think that any court would force a pastor to perform a same-sex marriage.

15 posted on 04/09/2015 1:34:40 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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He’s skirting around the nub of it, but close enough to get to the point.

The whole gay “marriage” thing is about the left pushing Christians to the limits of their tolerance to a point of resistance, then criminalizing that resistance.

The whole point and goal all along is the criminalization of Christian belief.


16 posted on 04/09/2015 1:34:54 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Control the language and you control the debate is a well tested tactic of the Evil Left.
I suggest we all troll the Left Wing websites and refer to the Far Left Wingnuts as CHBs aka Christian Hating Bigots.
The Left has declared outright culture war on Christian America, using their radical Gaystapo as shock troops.
The general Left has thus jumped the shark with their close alliance to the most hate God hate America fascist hate group in America.
Call the spade the spade and call the Left always the CHBs aka Christian Hating Bigots in all media.
17 posted on 04/09/2015 1:35:12 PM PDT by Happy Rain (TEA Party 2016 is gonna make TEA Party 2014 look like a Democrat landslide.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Twenty years ago did you think that same-sex marriage would one day be a "civil right?"
18 posted on 04/09/2015 1:36:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and th<uere is no one the<ire to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Has the government forced a church to conduct interfaith of interracial marriages?


19 posted on 04/09/2015 1:36:07 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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Twenty years ago did you think that same-sex marriage would one day be a "civil right?"
20 posted on 04/09/2015 1:36:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and th<uere is no one the<ire to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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