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Another Horizontal Gene Transfer Fairy Tale
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 4-6-2015 | Jeffrey P. Tomkins, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/06/2015 9:54:36 AM PDT by fishtank

Another Horizontal Gene Transfer Fairy Tale

by Jeffrey P. Tomkins, Ph.D. *

As the genomes of many new creatures rapidly fill the public DNA sequence databases, the problems for the grand evolutionary story are becoming overwhelming. One issue is the fact that different creatures have unique sets of genes specific to their kind with no apparent evolutionary history. To explain this glaring problem, evolutionists have resorted to the myth of pervasive horizontal gene transfer.

Horizontal gene transfer (HGT) is the process whereby genes are transferred from one type of creature to another without sexual reproduction. Earlier in my career, I participated in a study (published in the journal Science), in which we found that the pathogenic bacterium Wolbachia had transferred large portions of its DNA into the genomes of both worms and insects.1 The Wolbachia bacterium is able to do this extraordinary feat by targeting the cells of reproductive organs so that the transferred DNA is literally inherited in the host. However, we also observed that very few of these transferred genes were found to be expressed (turned on). They were clearly just genomic baggage. This is actually one of the few clearly documented cases of horizontal gene transfer showing that a specific type of parasite-host relationship is the mechanism for the foreign DNA importation to occur and be heritable.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; dna; evolution; genes; horizontal

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1 posted on 04/06/2015 9:54:36 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Widespread Lateral Gene Transfer from Intracellular Bacteria to Multicellular Eukaryotes

2 posted on 04/06/2015 9:56:16 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

The horizontal gene transference is the only way to get (caps for emphasis) NON SPECIES SPECIFIC INFORMATION from one species to another in order to facilitate ‘evolution’ (macro). Micro evolution can only work on information already present within a species, it can not create NEW NON SPECIES SPECIFIC INFORMATION to ‘create’ new non species specific parts, simply because it does not have information available to it that isn’t species specific- in other words, no matter how you manipulate the SPECIES SPECIFIC INFORMAITON, for let’s say an arm, you will never get an eye out of it, all you will end up doing is altering the look of the arm via deformation caused by mutations which causes loss of information, not gain of info (info necessary for the creation of new non species specific information)

horizontal gene transference is a big deal- without it you do not have macro evolution- and there are no instances of it found in nature, apart from some very specific bacteria which are all of the same KIND and were designed to accept horizontally transferred genes. most all other Species infact are designed to ward off horizontally transferred genes via several levels of defenses- these defenses are designed to protect the integrity of the specie’s DNA in order to keep that species of the same KIND


3 posted on 04/06/2015 10:33:27 AM PDT by Bob434
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an let me also point out that when lateral gene transference does occur, it is a case of parasitic invasion whereby host and parasite live in a symbiotic relationship which goes NO further- The parasite causes gene information LOSS in the host to a point where the host can no longer live without the parasite- but this is a much much different issue than ‘gain of new non species specific information’ as required by macro evolution


4 posted on 04/06/2015 10:38:11 AM PDT by Bob434
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Always hold suspect an author who cites himself as a reference...


5 posted on 04/06/2015 10:51:51 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: FormerRep

Oh, yeah....

How many refereed journal articles do you have? From whence do you state that claim?

It’s relevant, because it is NOT uncommon to reference your own articles.

fishtank, Ph.D., Mech Eng, Texas A&M


6 posted on 04/06/2015 3:47:02 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Bob434
So, you bring up good points. I think TOmkins did some previous work where he mentioned that viruses are used for the purpose of introducing new DNA into a host organism....

Having said that, I don't know if that could ever create a new taxonomic family.

IIRC, I think that the ICR people usually say that God created animals in their "kinds", where "kinds" probably correspond to the taxonomic "family".

7 posted on 04/06/2015 3:51:55 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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[[I don’t know if that could ever create a new taxonomic family]]

It can’t- the seagull will always be a seagull because of the protective systems built into the gull- it may lose info and thus not be able to mate with other gulls and only with it’s own subspecies, but it’s still a ‘gull kind’

There are some merits to the barimonology model that describes ‘kinds’ and exte4nsive testing has shown that ‘kinds’ always remain within the species kind- even the eukaryote is still the same ‘kind’ after beign invaded parastitically by the bacteria- We have to be very careful about symbiotic relationships being called ‘new information’ when it isn’t- it’s simple symbiotic info coexisting together- there is no evidence that symbiotic coexisting info turns one or the other species into a new ‘kind’


8 posted on 04/06/2015 4:04:15 PM PDT by Bob434
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