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The Rough Math Facing Ted Cruz
San Diego Union-Triune ^ | April 2, 2015 | George Will

Posted on 04/02/2015 9:28:25 AM PDT by Fiji Hill

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To: Fiji Hill

If this was written by George Will, he is one seriously -——— up person.

Why does he think it has been almost impossible to win elections since Ronald Reagan, the candidates were too Conservative?

This guy should drop off his credibility card. It has expired.


41 posted on 04/02/2015 10:37:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Isn’t this the same guy who was commenting on Obama’s pant crease a couple of years ago? No thanks George, I’m sticking with Cruz.


42 posted on 04/02/2015 10:43:36 AM PDT by erod (Chicago Conservative)
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To: Fiji Hill
When Jeb Bush, the most conservative governor of a large state since Ronald Reagan...is called a threat to conservatism, Republicans are with Alice in Wonderland.

I'd say Rick Perry is more conservative than Jeb Bush and that isn't saying much.

Frankly I don't need to bother reading the rest of his fantasy screed.

43 posted on 04/02/2015 11:02:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; GOPsterinMA; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

Reagan should’ve chosen Paul Laxalt instead for VP.


44 posted on 04/02/2015 11:04:33 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: SharpRightTurn

The GOPe wasn’t happy with Goldwater or Reagan’s conservative rhetoric in the 1960s either.


45 posted on 04/02/2015 11:04:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You have one in AZ named John McCain.

Military people usually get a pass.


46 posted on 04/02/2015 11:09:12 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Fiji Hill
When Jeb Bush, the most conservative governor of a large state since Ronald Reagan...is called a threat to conservatism, Republicans are with Alice in Wonderland.

Man, talk about a straw-man. I've never seen such an inflated bogus premise.

47 posted on 04/02/2015 11:20:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Impy

Flake is even worse than McCain.


48 posted on 04/02/2015 11:25:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Vigilanteman
Thanks for the recommendation.

Actually, my own taste in fiction is for the Victorian novel. But I thought that writing something with what is only implied in Victorian novels, explicitly, might help disavow young readers that Conservative values would somehow interfere with the fun side of life.

Of course, the difference was taste. Victorians had a sense of privacy--keeping private matters private. While I really do agree with their approach, I decided on the one you describe for tactical reasons. (In my defense, however, you will note that the characters tend to develope in a constructive direction--just as in those Victorian novels.

Hope that your mother-in-law's recovery works out better from this point on. God Bless!

49 posted on 04/02/2015 11:26:15 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Fiji Hill

Oh, goodie! Now everyone can feel sorry for him - that way he can achieve “victim” status and then the left will vote for him. Problem solved! ~ s


50 posted on 04/02/2015 11:29:47 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Fiji Hill

Maybe George Will should stick to what he is good at. Writing about baseball.


51 posted on 04/02/2015 11:39:15 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Signalman

Exactly.


52 posted on 04/02/2015 12:25:57 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t get it. On the day Cruz announced, Will called him a candidate that was “as good as it gets”. Why is he suddenly so negative?


53 posted on 04/02/2015 12:42:34 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Fiji Hill
I'm with Cruz no matter what the inside the beltway fops think.

In fact, the harder they try to marginalize him the more I like him.

54 posted on 04/02/2015 2:31:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: discostu

“much like how no GOP nominee was going to in in ‘08”

I know what you’re saying (people were tired of the GOP in 2008), but I don’t think Obama was unbeatable, had he run against a normal Republican. Hillary, on the other hand, back then would have been unstoppable, but certainly not today.


55 posted on 04/02/2015 2:59:05 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: marron
That's why the MSM want Jeb or anybody else they know will not win.
Actually, people are so tired of the Dems that Anybody but Dems "will"
win which is why "imo" the GOP wants somebody they can control.

That control consists of doing the bidding of the Dems even while they're out of power.
They are some nasty SOB's in the GOP, traitors all.

56 posted on 04/02/2015 2:59:14 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: Fiji Hill
Actually, the middle is not small, least of all in the Republican nomination process. Henry Olsen of the Ethics and Public Policy Center identifies “four faces of the Republican Party” — evangelicals, very conservative but secular voters, somewhat conservative voters, and moderates. He says the largest group, about 35 percent to 40 percent of the national party, are the somewhat conservatives. And in presidential years, moderates are the second-largest (25 percent to 30 percent). The somewhat conservatives “are found in similar proportions in every state” and “always back the winner.”

So if a candidate can sweep the moderates and also pick up a third of the conservatives and somewhat conservatives, that candidate can win the nomination.

It gets easier with time because voters flock to the front runner. It's not some conspiracy or evil magic.

All the same, though, I don't think Jeb will be the nominee. He's too tired and too hostile to conservatives.

That moderate group isn't what it once was either. A lot of them have gone over to the Democrats.

57 posted on 04/02/2015 3:08:37 PM PDT by x
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To: x

Cruz might be able to bring conservatives back to the party


58 posted on 04/02/2015 3:10:58 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEALY CRUZ 2016)
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To: BobL

There’s a difference between unbeatable and unwinnable. Obama was clearly beatable, just not by a GOP candidate that year.


59 posted on 04/02/2015 3:11:15 PM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: Ohioan
Will, at best, is very confused about what happened in 1964.

A number of factors contributed to Goldwater's defeat in 1964--Goldwater's reluctance to run, strife within his campaign team, the refusal of the Rockefeller wing of the party to actively support him, etc. The election was hardly a repudiation of conservatism.

60 posted on 04/02/2015 3:38:31 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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