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What if states just say ‘no’ to climate rule? [EPA asks for “cooperative federalism”]
The Hill ^ | March 8, 2015 | Timothy Cama

Posted on 03/09/2015 1:42:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is counseling states to defy a key pillar of President Obama’s climate change initiative.

But while it may be politically attractive for some states to heed the call to just say “no,” to the Environmental Protection Agency’s landmark limits on power plant emissions, experts say doing so could bring unwanted consequences.

McConnell, a Republican from coal-rich Kentucky, reasoned in a column in the Lexington, Ky., Herald-Leader that states’ refusal to comply with the contentious rule could be a powerful display of protest against an administration he accuses of overreach. At the same time, he argues, states could avoid expensive impacts of a regulation that he thinks is doomed by either Congress or the federal courts.

“Don't be complicit in the administration's attack on the middle class,” he warned states

The advice drew swift rebuke from McConnell’s political rivals, who called it unprecedented and misguided.

“I can’t recall a majority leader calling on states to disobey the law — and I’ve been here almost 24 years,” Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), the top Democrat on the Environment and Public Works Committee, said in a statement, referring to the Clean Air Act.

Further, experts and supporters of the regulation contend, refusing to write a state plan would invite the EPA to impose its own system for reducing emissions, denying state officials the ability to craft rules in a way that best fits the state’s unique circumstances.

The outcome, the say, could be a more expensive plan than could otherwise be achieved by the states themselves.

“I think it’s a bad idea,” said Jamie Van Nostrand, director of the Center for Energy and Sustainable Development at the West Virginia University College of Law.

“It might feel good to not play with the EPA, but I think it’s bad for the states’ citizens,” he said. “You’re less likely to end up with the least-cost compliance strategy.”

Daniel Selmi, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, said the “just say no” approach has the advantage of being “pithy.”

“Before taking that step, however, states should carefully consider the consequences,” Selmi wrote in a paper published by the Columbia University Law School. “If they do so objectively, it becomes apparent that opting out of the process at this point can result in significant disadvantages.”

State implementation plans are central to the EPA’s plan to cut carbon from the power sector 30 percent by 2030. The regulations were proposed last June and scheduled to be made final this summer.

Like many pollution control regulations under the Clean Air Act, EPA plans to rely on what it calls “cooperative federalism,” in which it sets carbon reduction targets for each state’s power sector and asks the states to write plans to comply.

If the EPA deems a plan to fit with the rule, officials would be able to use a wide variety of measures, like increasing energy efficiency or renewable energy, or cutting back the use of coal-fired power plants, to comply.

If a state does not submit a plan that’s up to snuff, the EPA can swoop in and write its own rules for the state.

David Doniger, climate change director at the Natural Resources Defense Council, said that’s the way it has worked since the 1970s, and the EPA has successfully defended its right to formulate plans.

“The general rule is that states choose to do it, because they take into account state and local circumstances, and they do things their own way, and they do things under state authority,” he said. “So when a state writes a plan under the Clean Air Act, it has the ability to make a lot of choices.”

Janet McCabe, acting assistant administrator at the EPA for air, announced in January that it was working on a “model” federal plan on which it would base its strategies for states.

While she argued that it would give states guidelines to work from, it also acted as a threat to states considering bucking the rules.

But McConnell pushed back.

“The Obama administration's so-called ‘clean power’ regulation seeks to shut down more of America's power generation under the guise of protecting the climate,” he wrote in his Herald-Leader column.

While McConnell recognized that the Obama administration has threatened federal plans, he said the rules are probably not even legal.

“And even in the unlikely event that the regulation does pass legal muster, it's difficult to conceive how a plan imposed from Washington would be much different from what a state might develop on its own,” he said.

No states have committed to ignoring the carbon rules, but a top Texas official said his state was seriously considering the tactic.

Additionally, under coordination from the conservative American Legislative Exchange Council, multiple states have passed laws that hinder their abilities to write implementation strategies, through provisions like requiring legislative approval of plans and prohibiting any rules that would cut coal-fired generation.

Peter Glaser, an attorney at Troutman Sanders, made a similar case to McConnell’s in a recent paper he published with two colleagues through the Federalist Society.

“We actually don’t think that a federal plan would be worse than a state plan, given what states are being required to do under at least the proposed rules The proposed rules are so stringent for so many states, and the flexibility that states supposedly have just isn’t there,” he said.

As an example, Glaser said many states would need to cut coal-fired generation dramatically under their own plans, so a federal plan isn’t likely to be worse.

But a key to Glaser’s case is that he does not believe the federal government has the power to implement the sweeping, so-called “outside the fence-line” changes that the EPA is allowing, since that would require changes that have nothing to do with actual power plants.

“The notion that EPA has authority to order a state to require more renewable resources, or to use less electricity or even just to run their natural gas more, that’s ridiculous,” he said. “It’s not even within the realm of anything anybody could argue.”

West Virginia University’s Van Nostrand also said it might be difficult for the EPA to go beyond the fence-line.

That’s why it’s so much better for states to use their own power, which is not necessarily limited to power plants.

“As a practical matter, I don’t know how they come up with a federal compliance plan that directs the utility to have more energy efficiency programs, or to ramp up some solar and wind,” he said.

Instead, the EPA would probably have to achieve a state’s entire reduction target by cutting emissions directly from power plants, which would cost much more to electric customers, Van Nostrand said.

The EPA, for its part, believes that its power isn’t limited to generating plants.

“Clearly our hope is that states will provide the necessary plans,” EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy said at a March 4 Senate hearing. “If not, there will be a federal system in place to allow us to move forward.”

NRDC’s Doniger said the ability to write a federal plan is explicitly outlined in the Clean Air Act.

“It’s EPA’s legal obligation, legal mandate — it’s required — that EPA propose, publish and implement a federal plan for the state that hasn’t got an approvable state plan,” he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: environment; epa
Congress and other states need to use the power of the purse -- take a page from Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's playbook:

Walker is dismantling the Democrat money and muscle machine in WI [unions-university] - I expect that is what he will do if he's elected president.

Watch what a candidate does, not only what he says.

Haven't we heard farmers argue against all the EPA rules, regulations and paper work that was taking all their time [= money]?

Here is ONE example of how Walker loosens their grip.

March 7, 2015 - Farm Bureau, others question Scott Walker's proposed farm research cuts

"Researchers and supporters of a program that helps farmers run cleaner and more efficient operations say they were “stunned” and “blindsided” by Gov. Scott Walker’s proposal to cut a third of the project’s funding.

Discovery Farms, a UW-Extension program that dates to 2001, applies science from a “plows-on” level, evaluates and monitors efforts by state farmers to control runoff, calibrate fertilizer use and employ techniques to conserve land and water.

It has a $750,000 budget, of which $248,000 would be cut in the governor’s proposed state budget.

UW-Extension officials noted the loss affects longstanding projects and the ability of the small program to leverage crucial additional grants and funds.

“We would have a 1.2-employee reduction of staff and we would pull back some of our sampling efforts, water quality analysis and a project (set) for Rock County,” said Amber Radatz, project co-director.

The project’s programs include monitoring 20 state farms and educating thousands of farmers on conservation strategies.

“This was a big surprise to our agency partners as well as our partners in farm groups and in UW-Extension,” she said. “We never had an inkling.”

The $248,000 comes from a surcharge on farm chemical sales that would be discontinued.".....

1 posted on 03/09/2015 1:42:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cut it 100%. Shut it down


2 posted on 03/09/2015 1:48:43 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

WTP should wise-up and ignore EVERYTHING that comes out of DC. From the IRS to the destructive EO’s that bow-boy decrees and the unconstitutional ‘laws’ from our faux congress. The can’t run their life or business. They have their head UTA in thinking they are qualified to run ours!!!!


3 posted on 03/09/2015 1:54:30 AM PDT by V K Lee
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To: V K Lee

Bump


4 posted on 03/09/2015 1:58:12 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is all a consequence of the EPA declaring CO2 a “pollutant” — and Congress letting them get away with it.


5 posted on 03/09/2015 2:32:18 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: GeronL
“I can’t recall a majority leader calling on states to disobey the law — and I’ve been here almost 24 years,” Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.),

The hypocrisy, it hurts! Strike the word "majority" and what do you have?

6 posted on 03/09/2015 3:19:35 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“I can’t recall a majority leader calling on states to disobey the law — and I’ve been here almost 24 years,” Sen. Barbara Boxer

I can't recall a president in the history of our Republic who disobeyed so many laws, and with such arrogance, as to render the meaning of law worthless. We are in something that is both anarchy and police state.

7 posted on 03/09/2015 3:35:19 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mitch McConnell is advising states? On what?

Mitch, maybe you ought to try and rack up some victories of your own before pretending to tell others how to win.


8 posted on 03/09/2015 3:42:40 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sirius Lee; All
Further, experts and supporters of the regulation contend, refusing to write a state plan would invite the EPA to impose its own system for reducing emissions, denying state officials the ability to craft rules in a way that best fits the state’s unique circumstances. The outcome, the(y) say, could be a more expensive plan than could otherwise be achieved by the states themselves.

They know the states will sue.

9 posted on 03/09/2015 4:15:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

:: just say “no,” to the Environmental Protection Agency’s landmark limits on power plant emissions...
...“I can’t recall a majority leader calling on states to disobey the law — and I’ve been here almost 24 years,” Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) ::

And what LAW might that be Babs? The Constitution doesn’t allow for Cabinet bureaucracies to legislate federal law.


10 posted on 03/09/2015 4:18:27 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: AZLiberty
Mi> This is all a consequence of the EPA declaring CO2 a “pollutant” — and Congress letting them get away with it.

1000X worse is SCOTUS ruled CO2 is a pollutant in a case with the same jacked-up, false numbers the global warming fascists are using for their charts and graphs.

11 posted on 03/09/2015 4:47:07 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If a Senator is advising the states the a law should be ignored then isn’t then that law Unconstitutional? If the President unilaterally decreed an unconstitutional law isn’t that grounds fro impeachment?


12 posted on 03/09/2015 4:51:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“And what LAW might that be Babs? The Constitution doesn’t allow for Cabinet bureaucracies to legislate federal law.”

Well, that is a good question.

Where exactly is this law???

I like this idea, of ignoring these regulations.


13 posted on 03/09/2015 5:48:38 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I would think Obama would be all for the states exercising their right of “prosecutorial” discretion.


14 posted on 03/09/2015 10:21:59 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici ( Better a conservative teabagger than a liberal teabagee)
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To: GeronL

Well of course Mitch is trying to put it off on the states and its not a bad idea for states to start taking back control. But Mitch is just doing it because the GOP does not have the stones to start cutting off funding for these insane regulations and I’m still waiting for some of our illustrious GOP presidential hopefuls to name the agencies they will shut down.


15 posted on 03/09/2015 10:30:20 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So-Flo,

IIRC, he said,

1. Don’t do the EPA’s bidding.
2. Make the EPA spend their own time and budget crafting their own “rules”.
3. Then, sue the EPA on the many errors that will make implementation of the EPA’s “rules” illegal and impractical.
4. Tie the EPA up with lawsuits and appeals until the socialist now in charge of the EPA can be fired,

What was your plan again...?


16 posted on 03/09/2015 11:50:10 AM PDT by pfony1 (Let's welcome some Democrat congressmen into the Republican party and OVERRIDE!)
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