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Why Rudy Was Wrong!
Townhall.com ^ | February 22, 2015 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 02/22/2015 8:07:28 AM PST by Kaslin

This past week at a private event in which many members of the GOP were in attendance former New York City mayor, Rudy Giuliani, said something that a vast majority of Americans have felt for several months. Many of them coming to that conclusion late in the life of the current administration, and some--far fewer--have felt Giuliani's observations for more like the duration of Obama's time in office.

"He does not love America. (Obama) doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country."

To press him on the issue Fox News Chanel's Megyn Kelly had the mayor on the following evening asking him directly if he'd like to apologize.

The mayor doubled down.

"Not at all. I want to repeat it," Giuliani said. "The reality is, from all that I can see of this president, all that I’ve heard of him, he apologizes for America, he criticizes America. ... This is an American president I’ve never seen before."

Obviously the political parties were vested in making political hay of the remarks as quickly as possible, so firm condemnations from DNC spokespeople, the White House, and leftist media issued "toughly worded" and ominous warnings of the doom of the GOP if they didn't "move past this kind of rhetoric."

All I wanted to know was how the public heard the remarks.

So for my radio show on Friday across media airwaves I asked the question, took calls and tallied the reactions of the calls that both got on air--and as best we could the ones that did not as well. (These listeners crossed 500+ radio stations in addition to a few cable/over-the-air television networks.)

I asked if people felt the same way Mayor Giuliani did about the President.

76% of the respondents agreed that they personally feel that the President does not love this country (at least not the way they do.)

24% of the respondents disagreed and felt the President does love, and express love for the country.

We also tracked as best we could the ethnicity of those responding.

54.5% of those who agreed with Mayor Giuliani were White or Non-Identified.

31.8% of those who agreed with the mayor were self-described African Americans.

13.6% of those who agreed with the mayor self-identified as Hispanic.

Those who disagreed...

57.2% were self-identified as African American.

28.6% were White or Non-Identified.

14.2% were self-identified as Hispanic.

We also tracked sex...

54.5% of those who agreed with Giuliani identified as female.

45.5% of those who agreed with Giuliani identified as male.

71% of those who disagreed identified as female

29% of those who disagreed identified as male.

Far from being a demographically/scientifically chosen sample, I was still surprised.

Whether the handlers, talking heads, editorialists, party officials, White House press office, or even the President himself can use effective talking points to respond to this remains to be seen. But one thing is painfully clear: a significant portion of the public genuinely feels as though the President doesn't love America.

But it was another aspect of Mayor Giuliani's reasoning that made me believe he might have gotten it wrong.

The Mayor made references to recent comments of public note by the President. He reminded us that the President chose the National Prayer Breakfast to open a conversation as to the 1200 year "crimes" of Christianity (this from the man who insists that 09.11.12--and the events of Benghazi--are ancient history.) The Mayor also pointed out the president's effervescent effusing of the "merits" of Islam even going so far as to link it to the "founding" our nation.

The Mayor should have gone further.

Multiple times from his first speech to a foreign audience in Cairo, to a speech in 2006 and another in 2009, President Obama has made public comments attempting to unlink Christianity and Judaism's historic links to our nation. Simultaneously he continues to imagine some historic link to Islam.

“Here in America,” Obama stated Thursday night, “Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding.”

He went so far as to cite the establishment of the first Islamic center in New York City, and the establishment of the first mosque, as examples of Islam's influence in our "founding."

The only problem being that those events happened in 1890 and 1929 respectively, while our Declaration of Independence was ratified in 1776.

Like he got it wrong with the historical accuracy of the Crusades, (they were a defensive war waged by the Christians after over 400 years of aggression, rape and enslavement by Muslims,) The first mere traces of Islam did not appear on American soil for over a century after our founding.

So while America may very well believe that Mayor Rudy Giuliani spoke for them in declaring--from his perspective--that President Obama does not love America.

The reality is actually quite different.

President Obama can't love something he has no clue about. (Or is unwilling to even take the time to learn better.)

Our President doesn't even know America.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: New York; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: america; barack0bama; giuliani; newyork; obamaunamerican; patriotism; rudygiuliani; rudyguilitani; scottwalker; wisconsin
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1 posted on 02/22/2015 8:07:28 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Obama loves himself more because as a tyrant that is what one does.

Obama knows every weakness America has and is working to yank all those weaknesses into full-blown problems which he can then exploit.

Just like a real tyrant.

2 posted on 02/22/2015 8:11:07 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: Kaslin
71% of those who disagreed identified as female


3 posted on 02/22/2015 8:13:15 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Kaslin

He knows about America. It’s just the wrong kind of America about which he knows. He knows about the America of greed and envy and division.

He also knows America’s weaknesses, and he has been gnawing at them since he was immaculated like the biggest sewer rat you could ever imagine.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 8:13:42 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin

B.Hussein loves the president.


5 posted on 02/22/2015 8:15:04 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Kaslin

“Like he got it wrong with the historical accuracy of the Crusades, (they were a defensive war waged by the Christians after over 400 years of aggression, rape and enslavement by Muslims..”

This bears repeating.


6 posted on 02/22/2015 8:16:26 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Kaslin

“Here in America,” Obama stated Thursday night, “Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding.”
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Well actually before that time..

During the 1600s islamics were capturing “New Netherland” ships and holding the sailors and passengers for ransom..

I guess slaughtering innocent merchants and demanding lots of Guilders from the folks back home in “New Amsterdam” for the release of sons could be called an “influence” on the beginnings of a new country..


7 posted on 02/22/2015 8:16:43 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: sasquatch

And the ignorant voters love him too


8 posted on 02/22/2015 8:17:14 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: BenLurkin

Betcha they didn’t ask many conservative women


9 posted on 02/22/2015 8:18:17 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

The author throws out some statistics to make it seem well-reasoned, but ultimately draws a completely illogical conclusion.


10 posted on 02/22/2015 8:21:29 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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” .... He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up .......”


No. He had a muslim father and Muslim step father and a transexual nanny in Indonesia.

He was also a “B” student in high school and somehow got accepted into Ivy League schools so he’s not like most of us.

I also have real jobs. I never heard of community organizer until I heard of him.

Also, I wouldn’t go to a church that teaches any kind of race liberation theology, honors muslims, or has a minister that yells G D America.

No. He is not like me.


11 posted on 02/22/2015 8:22:19 AM PST by boycott
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NONE of the reasons Giuliani gave to support his arguments is anything we didn’t hear about 7 years ago.

That his plain discussion of them and their obvious implications continues to fire controversy speaks volumes as to how it was possible for Obama to get elected twice. It also speaks to how unlikely it will be that we’ll fix this situation.


12 posted on 02/22/2015 8:24:29 AM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: Slyfox

Obama thinks America and Western Europe are too dominated by whites, to the disadvantage of the other races. Bottom line: he and his team wants to smack down whites and make America and Western Europe into 3rd world countries.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 8:24:51 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: BenLurkin
71% of those who disagreed identified as female

Alas, the slow decline of America since ratifying the 19th Amendment.

14 posted on 02/22/2015 8:25:56 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: BenLurkin

but percentage-wise, more females than males AGREED with Rudy...


15 posted on 02/22/2015 8:32:30 AM PST by latina4dubya (wheni have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Right Brother

I’m one woman who’s long understood why giving women the vote was so controversial.


16 posted on 02/22/2015 8:32:35 AM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: Kaslin

Which is why the Founding Fathers wanted a “Natural born citizen” to be President, as being such they would be cultural adapted to the American way of Life.

Obama was born in Kenya first, then Hawaii. He is culturally Marxist, moslem and in his formative years lived everywhere except in the USA.

He is not a culturally “AMERICAN”, and has no knowledge of the American way of life.


17 posted on 02/22/2015 8:34:57 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaslin
“Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding.”

Pretty close really.

America's first military excursion beyond her own borders was against the muslim Barbary Pirates.

"Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute."

18 posted on 02/22/2015 8:36:14 AM PST by null and void (People who deny history are trying to recreate it.)
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To: Kaslin

He knows what he wants to know, and like all communists he’s not above pulling things randomly from his orifice. Things to make certain groups feel good. Things to irritate and infuriate others. Some he does for his own enjoyment, but at the heart of it, it’s always done for the detriment of the United States.


19 posted on 02/22/2015 8:39:59 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: latina4dubya

I know not a scientific poll, but that part amazed me.


20 posted on 02/22/2015 8:41:47 AM PST by beaversmom
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