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Lake Erie Covered in Ice: Nearly 94 percent of lake is frozen, researchers say
US News ^ | Feb 18, 15 | AP

Posted on 02/18/2015 11:59:04 AM PST by xzins

Edited on 02/18/2015 12:16:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Organic Panic
CALL IT CLIMATE CHANGE -Bill Nye

Actually, it was Frank Luntz who coined "climate change" He's a modern day Edward Bernays (father of propaganda)

Although Luntz later tried to distance himself from the Bush administration policy, it was his idea that administration communications reframe "global warming" as "climate change" since "climate change" was thought to sound less severe.[18] Luntz has since said that he is not responsible for what the Bush administration did after that time. Though he now believes humans have contributed to global warming, he maintains that the science was in fact incomplete, and his recommendation sound, at the time he made it.[19]

Frank Luntz Wiki

61 posted on 02/18/2015 2:28:21 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: TADSLOS
was it "climate change" or global warming the last three times it completely froze? you know, back before anybody ever heard about globull warming or man made climate change. I live right by lake Erie. 18,000 years ago, a mile thick sheet of ice was sitting right where I now sit. Then the climate changed. That's what the climate does. All the time.


62 posted on 02/18/2015 2:30:33 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I was an active ordinary seaman and able bodied seaman on the Great Lakes from 1973-1978 and then switched to the oceans.

I looked at the photo on Wikipedia for Charlevoix and it certainly looks like one of the ports we stopped at.


63 posted on 02/18/2015 3:27:59 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: RC one
Then the climate changed. That's what the climate does. All the time.

It's worse than that for the lib global warming fanboys. Not only does the climate change on it's own without human intervention, but the Earth is not static. It shrinks and grows, the crust moves about, the magnetic core spins changing the magnetic poles, the planet wobbles on it's axis, and the planet's movements are affected by solar winds, space debris and gravitational tugs. I bet all that has far more to do with weather than our automobiles. The global warming adherents simply don't take all that into account when panicking about weather.

64 posted on 02/18/2015 3:43:28 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Alas Babylon!

65 posted on 02/18/2015 3:56:09 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: roadcat

I’m thinking the global cooling nut jobs of the 70s were closer to the truth than Al Gore.


66 posted on 02/18/2015 4:11:38 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

Yeah, but 18,000 years ago Climate Change wasn’t a registered trademark of the left to rake in the $$$$.


67 posted on 02/18/2015 4:28:13 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: xzins

Excellent! Current and bigger, too!

Amazing that from this altitude, one cannot see evidence of mankind... Unless that thin line across Canada is manmade.


68 posted on 02/18/2015 4:41:09 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: RC one

Could be a bad sign if the ice does not melt this summer!


69 posted on 02/18/2015 4:51:28 PM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: RC one

I remember those panics in the 1970s about global cooling fears. At least those nuts blamed it on natural phenomena. Most things the nuts believed in were shown to be wrong and way off the mark; same will be shown about “global warming”, being shown to be wrong and a false religion. In the 1970s, “they” said we would run out of oil by 2000 and our industry would die, “they” said the Earth would be covered by ice within a few decades, “they” said we would run out of food by 2000 (remember Soylent Green?), and on and on. Meanwhile “they” are ignoring the real crisis over the Islamic 100-year war on western values, and the loss of personal independence and freedom by evil men within our governments. Maybe “they” will pick up on that in 2050 when it’s too late for many to survive the wars.


70 posted on 02/18/2015 5:13:24 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Alas Babylon!

It is a nice picture. I keep seeing Lake Ontario’s northern shore as elevation lines on a map. Is there that kind of elevation difference?? Is that even possible?


71 posted on 02/18/2015 7:01:46 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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