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Feds: No link between pot and car crashes
The Hill ^ | Feb 07, 2015 | Jesse Byrnes

Posted on 02/09/2015 3:35:55 PM PST by Ken H

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To: Ken H
"National Highway Traffic Safety Administration report"

...with statistical analysis provided by the Center For Manmade Global Warming.
41 posted on 02/09/2015 7:28:33 PM PST by indthkr
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To: FlingWingFlyer
nhtsa.gov says =>

Roadway deaths fall nearly 25 percent in a decade, fatality rates at a historic low

Dec 19, 2014

WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of Transportation's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) today released the 2013 Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) data that shows a 3.1 percent decrease from the previous year and a nearly 25 percent decline in overall highway deaths since 2004. In 2013, 32,719 people died in traffic crashes. The estimated number of people injured in crashes also declined by 2.1 percent.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/About+NHTSA/Press+Releases/2014/traffic-deaths-decline-in-2013

42 posted on 02/09/2015 9:31:11 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: dware

Heard a comedian a while back say when you’re drunk you drive 90mph and if feels like 30. When your stoned you drive 30mph and if feels like 90.


43 posted on 02/09/2015 10:38:36 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Does so
...Unclear what this .gif is about...?

Don't worry. It will make more sense when you're sober.

: )

44 posted on 02/09/2015 10:45:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: cripplecreek
Forgetting the clutch as I approached a stop sign was one of my common “That’s why they call it dope” moments.

My girlfriend had a lot of moments like that when I tried to teach her how to drive my manual transmission cars. I gave up, and told her to stick to automatics. I thought she was going to destroy my clutch. P.S. She didn't use drugs.

As for my group of friends when young, we had a lot of "Cheech and Chong" moments. Like the time four of us were getting stoned in my friend's Chevy parked inside his garage. Someone started banging on the garage door, shining a flashlight through the window and screaming "Open up in there, Now!". We quickly swallowed all the dope (it was a lot) before opening the garage door, only to find another friend laughing out loud at us. Thankfully, none of us needed to drive after that (we were upchucking all night). I thank God my girlfriend got me to quit drugs.

45 posted on 02/09/2015 11:22:06 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Mastador1; LittleSpotBlog
Here are the traffic fatality rates by state for 2013. Note that Colorado, Washington, and Oregon were below the national average, which was 1.11 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled. DC, which has medical marijuana and just voted 2 to 1 to legalize, had the lowest rate in the country.

Also note that medical mj states, for the most part, appear to have safer highways than states without.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/state-by-state-overview

46 posted on 02/10/2015 1:15:53 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Ken H

http://consumer.healthday.com/public-health-information-30/marijuana-news-759/fatal-car-crashes-involving-pot-use-have-tripled-in-u-s-study-684515.html


47 posted on 02/10/2015 1:56:08 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A “new federal report” huh? ROTFL!!!

The amount of credibility that Freepers give a "new federal report" or "a new study says...." for that matter, really just depends on what said report says and how much it agrees or disagrees with their already pre conceived beliefs.

48 posted on 02/10/2015 2:01:23 AM PST by southern rock
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In the statistical sense, I have no problem with the study’s implication that dope is less likely to contribute to auto accidents than alcohol. But... I’d like to see data on the nature of the accidents (congestion, speed, time,) and the regions from where the data was sampled. Does the data account for areas experiencing growing dope use, or is does it concern areas with stabilized usage?

Nobody wasted should be behind the wheel.


49 posted on 02/10/2015 2:26:01 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mastador1
From your link =>

In an endnote to the study, the researchers pointed to several limitations with the research. One is that marijuana can be detected in the blood up to one week after use. And, therefore, the researchers said, "the prevalence of nonalcohol drugs reported in this study should be interpreted as an indicator of drug use, not necessarily a measurement of drug impairment.

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And that still does not alter the fact that highway fatalities are at record lows, even in states that have fully legalized. Prohibitionists said that wouldn't happen.

50 posted on 02/10/2015 4:35:31 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: JaguarXKE

Cop: “can I see your licence?”

Cheech: “It’s on the back of the car man!”


51 posted on 02/10/2015 4:51:35 AM PST by Woodman
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To: cripplecreek
Pot was definitely the primary reason.

Dude!

52 posted on 02/10/2015 4:55:44 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Ken H
So they sampled 3000 people in accidents, and said they wouldn't cause
accidents if they were stoned?

But they were already in an accident to participate in the study!
Did I misread something?

53 posted on 02/10/2015 5:04:25 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Revel
The federal government is really working hard to have Zero credibility.

Right, because the validity of a scientific finding is judged not by the soundness of its methodology but by whether it agrees with what you already believe.

54 posted on 02/10/2015 6:59:48 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: MaxMax; Ken H

There was a control group:

“One week after a driver involved in a crash provided data for the study, control drivers were selected at the same location, day of week, time of day, and direction of travel as the original crash. This allowed a comparison to be made between use of alcohol and other drugs by drivers involved in a crash with drivers not in a crash, resulting in an estimation of the relative risk of crash involvement associated with alcohol or drug use.”

http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/nti/pdf/812117-Drug_and_Alcohol_Crash_Risk.pdf


55 posted on 02/10/2015 7:06:14 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You must have been the top scientist on the committee.

Video taped Driving Tests have been done for years. After moderate dosage drivers obviously lose concentration and coordination. These scientists are no better than the so called global warming scientists. And that is all this report proves. You are gullible to believe it, but it obviously fits your needs.


56 posted on 02/10/2015 8:24:34 AM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
Video taped Driving Tests have been done for years. After moderate dosage drivers obviously lose concentration and coordination.

No necessary contradiction there - maybe the road drivers simply weren't dosed to that level, or maybe the videotaped closed-course tests failed to capture some relevant aspect of real-world driving.

These scientists are no better than the so called global warming scientists.

Aaand there it is: some bad science has been done, so any inconvenient science can be assumed bad with no further thought. You have fun with that.

57 posted on 02/10/2015 8:43:37 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Ken H

My feeling now as it has been is, I don’t care what the hell you do to yourself in your own home, just don’t take out into public until you’re sober whether it’s alcohol or so called recreational drugs. I have seen too many of both stripes that think they are just fine and functional in public when they are impaired.


58 posted on 02/10/2015 12:54:43 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1
Fair enough - I agree that there's a level of messed-upness that people have a right not to have to look at.
59 posted on 02/10/2015 4:50:32 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Hopeless


60 posted on 02/10/2015 7:50:38 PM PST by Revel
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