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EU wants internet firms to hand over encryption keys
EU Observer ^ | 01/22/2015 09:30 | Nikolaj Nielsen

Posted on 01/22/2015 2:22:02 PM PST by Olog-hai

A top EU official wants internet and telecommunication companies to hand over encryption keys to police and spy agencies as part of a wider crackdown on terrorism.

The EU’s counter-terrorism coordinator, Gilles de Kerchove, in a document leaked by London-based civil liberties group Statewatch, says the European Commission should come up with rules that require the firms to help national governments snoop on possible suspects.

“Since the Snowden revelations, internet and telecommunications companies have started to use often decentralized encryption, which increasingly makes lawful interception by the relevant national authorities technically difficult or even impossible,” notes de Kerchove in the document. …

(Excerpt) Read more at euobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: charliehebdo; edwardsnowden; encryptionkeys; europeanunion; eussr; gillesdekerchove; netneutrality; stasi; statewatch; wikileaks

1 posted on 01/22/2015 2:22:03 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Who do they think they are, obama???


2 posted on 01/22/2015 2:23:49 PM PST by null and void (The aggregate effect of competitive capitalism is indistinguishable from magic)
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To: Olog-hai
Next up: banning window curtains and blinds.
3 posted on 01/22/2015 2:25:25 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Olog-hai

And bank account codes while you’re at it .......if it’s not too much trouble.............


4 posted on 01/22/2015 2:27:26 PM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Olog-hai
What's the problem, citizen? If you haven't done anything wrong you've nothing to fear. And by the way, questioning the State is doing something wrong. Why shouldn't your information be ours? Your money is.
5 posted on 01/22/2015 2:28:00 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Olog-hai

Now you see the financial elites’ reason for creating and fostering terrorism.

It provides the “enemy” which we “need protection from”.

The elites’ puppet governments say they will be our “protectors”.


6 posted on 01/22/2015 2:32:57 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: null and void

Obama learns from these guys. They are quite subtle.


7 posted on 01/22/2015 2:42:47 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: PieterCasparzen

In the EU, there is no difference between financial elites and political. This has been going on for quite a while. They are big on the “beneficial crisis.


8 posted on 01/22/2015 2:43:32 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

PFFFFT! BWA HAHAHA! The ENTIRE premise of security on the INTERNET is founded on the principle of nonrepudiation: you cannot dispute who I am based on the credentials I present. As soon as you hand over hashes, salts, any type of encryption algorithm used to generate certificates, you’ve inherently compromised the very definition of nonrepudiation.

This is literally impossible to do unless their end goal is the complete destruction of the Internet as a whole.


9 posted on 01/22/2015 2:45:10 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

“Next up: banning window curtains and blinds.”

Nah, that’s not a problem anymore, with IR imagers and ultra high frequency radar.

What would be interesting would be to stop the construction of a house designed to thwart those technologies, which can be done.


10 posted on 01/22/2015 2:48:52 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: rarestia

Not only that, but over the past year or two British, German and French cloud vendors and other associated European Internet entities have sold their services and products with the claim that since they’re not American (Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft) then the NSA can’t force them to reveal third party sensitive data, encryption keys, etc.,as Snowden showed was (and is) going on.

Now that selling point is moot.

Welcome to the party pals!

Actually, I think it’s been going on a while now. Whether they chose to tell us is another matter. I’ve come to the conclusion that in the Internet era, privacy has withered up, died and blown away.

If I had information so sensitive that I couldn’t survive its disclosure, it would not be processed, transmitted or stored electronically, period.


11 posted on 01/22/2015 2:53:28 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
If I had information so sensitive that I couldn’t survive its disclosure, it would not be processed, transmitted or stored electronically, period.

Words to live by, FRiend. That said, I'll still go the distance to make it difficult for anyone, the Feds included, to read the mindless drivel I'm disseminating.

12 posted on 01/22/2015 2:56:16 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I was demonstrating Dynamic Access Control in Windows Server 2012 to some folks a while ago and showed them how easy it was to dynamically search for keywords, phrases, SSANs, etc. across the entire data center. They were amazed and said “Is this how the NSA does it?” I replied, “No, they’re 1000 times better at it!”

Then again, on the subject of private keys; why would I need you to give them to me if I just logged on as you? Take the Encrypted File System, for example. The domain administrator is, by default, the Key Recovery Agent. If I could log in as the domain admin on the domain controller, I could just export the KRA’s private key. It would take me about 30-60 seconds.


13 posted on 01/22/2015 3:09:55 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Olog-hai

Terrible. I can see why they don’t want the firms to read the terrorist manifestoes; by the same token, the firms don’t want the government to be able to decrypt from all its customers.

Sounds like the firms need a double or triple layer of encrypt/decrypt — and only give the governments one layer. That way, if they get a warrant for an individual, they can then decrypt one or two layers and send the last layer to the government for the final decryption.

It all comes down to trust. No one can trust anyone any more, thanks to the left’s handy destruction of absolutes, of eternal truth, and of the existence of a God who watches what we do in the private. Government is trying now to take His place in our private spheres. But unlike God, Who is Love, Government is Evil.


14 posted on 01/22/2015 3:15:53 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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To: Olog-hai

If I were an EU based internet company, I’d start by shutting down access to any site equivalent of “dot gov”.


15 posted on 01/22/2015 3:20:37 PM PST by G Larry (Expert Marksman for 60 years)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Restrict your DAs to fewer than 3 users, and you at least reduce your footprint to near nothing. Sadly, in every organization I’ve worked, there are at least a dozen DAs and many of them are service accounts. Thank God for MSAs.


16 posted on 01/22/2015 3:48:13 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Olog-hai.


17 posted on 01/23/2015 3:47:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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