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Marine Le Pen: To Call This Threat by Its Name: France Was Attacked by Islamic Fundamentalism.
New York Times ^ | 1/18/15 | Marine Le Pen

Posted on 01/19/2015 2:10:00 AM PST by jalisco555

Paris — “To misname things is to add to the world’s unhappiness.” Whether or not Albert Camus really did utter these words, they are an astonishingly apt description of the situation in which the French government now finds itself. Indeed, the French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius no longer even dares pronounce the real name of things.

Mr. Fabius will not describe as “Islamists” the terrorists who on Wednesday, Jan. 7, walked into the offices of the newspaper Charlie Hebdo, right in the heart of Paris. Nor will he use “Islamic State” to describe the radical Sunni group that now controls territory in Syria and Iraq. No reference can be made to “Islamic fundamentalism,” for fear that Islam and Islamism might get conflated. The terms “Daesh” and “Daesh cutthroats” are to be favored instead, even though in Arabic “Daesh” means the very thing to be hidden: “Islamic State.”

Let us call things by their rightful names, since the French government seems reluctant to do so. France, land of human rights and freedoms, was attacked on its own soil by a totalitarian ideology: Islamic fundamentalism. It is only by refusing to be in denial, by looking the enemy in the eye, that one can avoid conflating issues. Muslims themselves need to hear this message. They need the distinction between Islamist terrorism and their faith to be made clearly.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; charliehebdo; deathtoislam; europeanunion; fascist; france; lepen; marinelepen; nato; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; paris; terrorism; waronterror
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As Glenn Reynolds notes, it's hard to say what is more remarkable- the clear-headed substance of this article or the fact that it was published in the New York Times.
1 posted on 01/19/2015 2:10:00 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555

Marine Le Pen is a stinking national socialist.


2 posted on 01/19/2015 2:25:25 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

That may be but I’m amazed that the Times published this piece


3 posted on 01/19/2015 2:28:26 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Marine correctly identifies the problem in France. That isn’t being done by:

Merkel
Hollande
Obama
Cameron

or any other fake “world leader” you care to name.

Bibi gets it. And, amazingly, it seems the government of EGYPT gets it.

American conservatives get it.

Other than that...


4 posted on 01/19/2015 2:31:03 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Grzegorz 246

Marine’s dad might be, but I don’t think she is.

In any event, she’s the only one telling it like it is, so she has my vote.


5 posted on 01/19/2015 2:48:52 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Marine Le Pen is a stinking national socialist.

As such, she is nevertheless preferable to the current leadership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yazslt1wESM&t=1m4s

I'm glad I'm not voting in France. But if I were, I would not be voting for the normal candidates.

6 posted on 01/19/2015 2:49:26 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: jalisco555

It’s an excellent piece. Not a rant, just, as you say, clear-headed. And it offers solutions that are reasonable, fair and should be intelligible even to the Times’ readers.


7 posted on 01/19/2015 2:59:21 AM PST by livius
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To: jalisco555

How refreshing a politician calling it what it is.


8 posted on 01/19/2015 3:03:20 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: jalisco555
Stripping jihadists of their French citizenship is an absolute necessity. In the longer run, most important, national border checks must be reinstated, and there should be zero tolerance for any behavior that undermines laïcité and French law

It would be heretical to political correctness to suggest the same be done here in the US.

9 posted on 01/19/2015 3:08:25 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

Bttt


10 posted on 01/19/2015 3:30:34 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Grzegorz 246

Marine Le Pen is a stinking national socialist.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes, you are 100% Correct. Le Pen fits right in with Obama:

Good Read:”Barrack Obama , The Quintessential Fascist”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

And according to the definitions of history Le Pen’s headline needs correction ( her National Socialism is why she will not state the truth ):

France Was Attacked by Islamic Fundamentalism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Should correctly be:

France was attacked by Islamofascism.

It is interesting that Obama and his running dogs refuse to use the word fascism, because history demands it.Why? Because Obama and his movement are Utopian fascists themselves. They do not want to give the public a brush that will eventually paint Obama too.


11 posted on 01/19/2015 3:49:08 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Interesting, NY Slimes publishes an op-ed by "extreme right wing" Marine Le Pen, until one realizes that she's mocking Charlie Hebdo's hypocrisy (see below) and that Putin is up to his ass in the so-called European right wing.
12 posted on 01/19/2015 4:07:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

The French humanist secularist tradition with word ‘fundamentalist’ used as a term of demonization.

Easy for NYT to print.


13 posted on 01/19/2015 4:21:45 AM PST by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: jalisco555

Meanwhile....

Far-right French politician tells Russian paper the West was behind the Charlie Hebdo attack
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/18/far-right-french-politician-tells-russian-paper-the-west-behind-the-charlie-hebdo-attack/
Noah Rothman

January 18, 2015

The godfather of the French right and the founder of the French Front National Party may be out of politics, but he is not out of the public spotlight. While he never held office higher than membership in the European Parliament and the French National Assembly, Jean-Marie Le Pen’s progeny seeks to succeed where he failed. And she may do just that; Marine Le Pen has repeatedly shown that she has the savvy and moderation that her father lacked. Her biggest obstacle to advancing in French politics may be the fact that her dad just won’t stop talking. Sound familiar? It should.

Jean-Marie Le Pen, the founder of France’s leading right-leaning party, recently told a pro-Putin Russian newspaper exactly what they wanted to hear: The West’s intelligence agencies, and not radical Islamist terrorism, were responsible for the attack on the satirical French weekly Charlie Hebdo.

(Snip)


14 posted on 01/19/2015 4:40:03 AM PST by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: jalisco555

——for fear that Islam and Islamism might get conflated——

The terms have been conflated on Free Republic for ever


15 posted on 01/19/2015 4:44:05 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

islam = satan’s death cult
allah = satan

That’s all one needs to know to make an informed choice on the team they choose.


16 posted on 01/19/2015 4:52:22 AM PST by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: jalisco555
While everyone has heard of the Islamic State being referred to as either ISIS or ISIL, there is a new nickname called “DAESH” gaining prominence in recent months… and the Muslim terrorist group hates it.

In a related report by the Inquisitr, singer Pat Boone called President Obama a “traitor” for his handling of international affairs. It’s also been reported that Algeria may have warned France a day before the Paris terrorist attacks began.

The reason the Islamic State gave themselves this name is due to their commitment to establishing an Islamic caliphate over the entire world, starting with countries in the Middle East. Since they are a terrorist group, and not a state, the term DAESH has started to become popular since it’s believed using the other terminology indirectly legitimizes them.

DAESH derives from the Arabic name with which they refer to themselves, “al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi Iraq wa al-Sham.” This new “loose” acronym, pronounced “Die-esh,” is already starting to be used by the heads of governments, although much of the media has not yet caught on.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1762507/daesh-the-meaning-behind-the-isis-or-isil-nickname-that-the-islamic-state-hates/#sXOCpepBktxlblr1.99

The reason DAESH hates being called DAESH is because it’s similar to the verb Daes, which means “one who crushes something underfoot. It also sounds similar to Dahes, or “one who sows discord.”

So calling them DAESH is an added insult and will further inflame the islamics and goad them in making more violent terroristic moves against the west...

expect severe outbreak of ululations and this guy all over


17 posted on 01/19/2015 4:54:46 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: newfreep

That’s the dogma


18 posted on 01/19/2015 4:55:15 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: jalisco555

From the article: “If you want to bury a problem, set up a committee,”

True, and applies universally..


19 posted on 01/19/2015 4:55:50 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Grzegorz 246

“Marine Le Pen is a stinking national socialist.”

If France doesn’t do anything, they will simply fall to Muslim control just due to their demographics (within 30 years, at most)...at that point the French would be looking back fondly at their days under Nazi occupation - it will be that bad.


20 posted on 01/19/2015 5:09:46 AM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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