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Washington Man Who Faces Years In Prison For Growing Medical Marijuana Has Cancer
Huffington Post ^ | Jan. 16, 2015

Posted on 01/17/2015 6:02:04 AM PST by Wolfie

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To: Gaffer

Not making excuses. Rather, supporting freedom.

“sell off the excess to your or my kids” - Selling it to your kids isn’t personal use. No argument on that - prosecute away. I have no problems with laws and enforcement, but this is a property rights issue.


21 posted on 01/17/2015 6:50:46 AM PST by kdot
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To: tacticalogic

I’ll re phrase it........... When was he diagnosed with cancer and when did he start growing MJ?


22 posted on 01/17/2015 6:58:33 AM PST by Ditter
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To: kdot

“.....growing 70 plants isn’t what I’d consider “for personal medical use” for just one self-prescribed patient”.......

The article named several family members and friends who were all involved. Seems this is more than “growing for personal medical purposes”. Do they ALL have cancer?


23 posted on 01/17/2015 7:02:18 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: kdot

“.....growing 70 plants isn’t what I’d consider “for personal medical use” for just one self-prescribed patient”.......

The article named several family members and friends who were all involved. Seems this is more than “growing for personal medical purposes”. Do they ALL have cancer?


24 posted on 01/17/2015 7:02:18 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: DaveA37

“Harvey, along with his wife, Rhonda; their son, Rolland Gregg; Rolland’s wife, Michelle Gregg; as well as close family friend Jason Zucker”...........

The list I just referred to in my previous post. Must be a “sick” bunch.


25 posted on 01/17/2015 7:03:50 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Wolfie

This is a federal case so I assume the DoJ is involved. Where does Eric Holder stand on this?


26 posted on 01/17/2015 7:04:36 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: kdot

Property rights issue.....let’s take it to the extreme then....suppose they contended they needed an acre’s worth of castor bean crop to address some medical need and that this is all just a property rights issue.

I’ll leave it up to you to find out what you can make from castor beans....it’s extreme for sure, but at some point this freedom of anything property-wise isn’t wise in my opinion.


27 posted on 01/17/2015 7:04:40 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: USNBandit

“allows somebody with a doctor’s prescription for marijuana to grow up to twelve plants for their own use”

Thanks for that info on the WA laws. I can respect the law, but fundamentally disagree with it. To me, it is offensive to be required to engage the medical community just to grow 12 herbs in my garden. I prefer to limit my private information when it comes to big data.


28 posted on 01/17/2015 7:04:57 AM PST by kdot
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To: Ditter
I’ll re phrase it........... When was he diagnosed with cancer and when did he start growing MJ?

That's a more reasonable question, but it appears to be leading to a conclusion that you aren't sick until you've been diagnosed.

29 posted on 01/17/2015 7:12:51 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Gaffer

One thing I do every day is make soap. Castor Oil (from the castor bean plant) is an important part of my recipe. If I could extract the oil from my own crop and use it in my soap, why shouldn’t I be able to?

It’s my garden and I should be able to grow whatever I please to satisfy the needs of me and my family. -already stipulated against external external distribution.


30 posted on 01/17/2015 7:17:51 AM PST by kdot
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To: kdot

So you grow the castor bean then? Or do you buy it? Do you plant the equivalent of say 70 plants of marijuana.....

It could be something else. My point is blind insistence on totally unrestricted property rights (and in this case, I do not agree it is solely a property rights issue, BTW) sounds nice. It is far more difficult to reach some “do not cross line” in practice.

You and I have made our cases and I really don’t have anything more to say actually. I wish you well and good hunting :0)


31 posted on 01/17/2015 7:23:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Who’s to say they didn’t already. I just find it very hard to believe one patient needs a 70 plant cache to sustain.

Shouldn't it be up to the state of WA to deal with this, rather than the feds, per the Tenth Amendment?

32 posted on 01/17/2015 7:24:19 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Wolfie

Since the CDC appears to have gone on record saying tobacco “Smoking can cause cancer almost anywhere in your body, including the:

•Mouth, nose, and throat
•Larynx
•Trachea
•Esophagus
•Lungs
•Stomach
•Pancreas
•Liver
•Kidneys and ureters
•Bladder
•Colon and rectum
•Cervix
•Bone marrow and blood (leukemia)

What do we now about this gentleman’s history let along long term effects of taking Marijuana, medical or recreational?

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/campaign/tips/diseases/cancer.html

Just expressing an opinion!


33 posted on 01/17/2015 7:26:08 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Ken H

Yes, in its proper context. Another freeper here cited the law that says “up to 12 plants for personal use.” WA state should be the controlling legal authority here.

I am guessing there is more to this story here if the Feds are involved.


34 posted on 01/17/2015 7:26:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: DaveA37

I can grow a limited quantity of tobacco in my garden for personal use and enjoyment. I can distill a limited amount of moonshine in my garage. But I can’t grow a couple mj plant in my garden? Why must I have cancer to use it?


35 posted on 01/17/2015 7:27:26 AM PST by kdot
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To: Wolfie

I thought the plan was to legalize “it” and then “tax the hell out of it”. How the hell can you “tax the hell out of it” if people are growing their own? He isn’t going to jail for growing happy smoke, he’s going to jail because he wasn’t paying taxes on it.


36 posted on 01/17/2015 7:28:47 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When the hell do I get MY white privilege? I'm tired of busting my @$$ for a living.)
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To: Wolfie
It's competition for his Sinola cartel buddies!

He's busted more MMJ shops than W by far!


What kind of monster denies the sick, suffering, or dying their choice of treatment or drugs?

37 posted on 01/17/2015 7:34:51 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Wolfie
This is why we cannot slow the growth of government and loss of rights. There are plenty of people on the conservative and progressive sides demanding more government to crack down on people doing something they don't like.

Anti gunners place the blame for crime on a gun, not the person wielding it. Drug warriors place the blame for crime on a plant, not the person doing the crime.

38 posted on 01/17/2015 7:34:57 AM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Wolfie

Marijuana has more carcinogens in it than tobacco.


39 posted on 01/17/2015 7:35:39 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Gaffer

Your points are well taken. We’re not that far apart. I’m fine with “draw the line somewhere”. The challenge is deciding where to draw it.

As for the castor, I have a great supplier and have no need to produce my own. But if I ever wanted to....

Good day to you, Gaffer.


40 posted on 01/17/2015 7:37:56 AM PST by kdot
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