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Community College an Expensive Freebie
Accuracy in Academia ^ | January 9, 2015 | Malcolm A. Kline

Posted on 01/12/2015 7:09:58 AM PST by Academiadotorg

It’s one thing for conservative pundits to question the Obama Administration’s latest higher education subsidy. It’s quite another for a writer in The Atlantic to start asking inconvenient questions.

“President Obama wants to provide free tuition at community colleges, a proposal that could benefit as many as 9 million students, according to a White House outline of the plan released Thursday,” Fawn Johnson wrote on the Atlantic blog. “But there's one big caveat in the proposal: There isn't plan to fund it, other than to ask Congress for the money.”

“Without that crucial piece of the program, which would be available to students as long as they maintain a 2.5 GPA, the idea is little more than a pipe dream. It resembles Obama's proposal in 2013 for a universal pre-k program for 4-year-olds. To provide free public pre-k for low-income families alone would cost $75 billion over 10 years, according to some analyses. Early-education lobbyists are struggling to figure out how to persuade lawmakers to pony up for that small part of a larger pre-k proposal. (A cigarette tax is among the items they are bandying about.)”

Although the Obama Administration has, contrary to its claims, shown itself able to work with the Republican leadership in Congress, much to the consternation of the latter’s base voters, Republican governors are another story. And the way the Obama plan is designed, they would come into play.

“Even if this latest White House proposal were to gain approval from the Republican-controlled Congress (an unlikely scenario), states would still need to cooperate with the administration,” Johnson writes. “Obama is proposing a split responsibility between states and the federal government in which the feds would offer 75 percent of the money to send students to community colleges, while the states would put up the rest.”

“The design is, in part, a nod to states, which run the public college system—but it also could be read by some Republicans as a federal intrusion into states' turf.” Johnson is a correspondent for the National Journal, also not a right-wing mouthpiece.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communitycollege; communitycolleges; indoctrination; nofreelunch; obama; tuition; wortheverypenny
even the MSM is asking who is going to pay for the Administration's Community College plan--
1 posted on 01/12/2015 7:09:58 AM PST by Academiadotorg
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well.. using Obola’s illegal alien actions as a template ... All he really needs to do is declare it so! Then simply direct all involved government agencies to simply stop prosecuting college students who refuse to repay their federal student loans!

and WALA! he has made it so, with no congressional approval or funding needed.

2 posted on 01/12/2015 7:14:45 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Just, bizarre! Total denial of reality.


3 posted on 01/12/2015 7:15:30 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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Back when it began in Kansas City, Communiversity was free. Now it is called Penn Valley Community College.


4 posted on 01/12/2015 7:15:38 AM PST by yldstrk
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“...which would be available to students as long as they maintain a 2.5 GPA,...”

And, of course, guess what the community colleges will do to keep these students enrolled.

Obviously, they’ll lower their standards down to what Harvard had to do to admit the Dorkbama cretin.


5 posted on 01/12/2015 7:18:25 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Academiadotorg

When the whole proposal falls apart, as was intended from the beginning, Obama and the MSM will simply blame the mean, heartless Republicans who don’t want poor people to get ahead.


6 posted on 01/12/2015 7:41:43 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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Another 2 years of political indoctrination ...big deal!

Will they offer real world skills like welding, any vital healthcare trades, plumbing, electrical, refrigeration...NO.

Absolutely every thing and anything the Dems have enacted since the Clintonistas’ has been an exercise in unproductive big government sh!tbirdism...

...and this intellectually challenged, cliftsnotes dependent, post colonial-like, sub-Saharan regime is no different.


7 posted on 01/12/2015 7:45:50 AM PST by exPBRrat
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We will pay for it, and not just for free tuition.

Attending free Community College will qualify “students” for taxpayer funded and underwritten student loans which the attendees have no ability or intention of ever repaying.

Kind of like the sub prime housing loan disaster.

A huge portion of current student loan spending is basically giving loans to unqualified individuals who tend scam trade schools such as sham beauty schools. The students have no intention of ever paying the loans back and most never even bother attending class.

Obama is just trying to extend this to the community college system

Obama just wants to

8 posted on 01/12/2015 7:46:28 AM PST by rdcbn
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Grubber and Roberts will take care of it.


9 posted on 01/12/2015 7:58:34 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

About a critical essay from leftist craphole ‘The Atlantic’. Thanks Academiadotorg.


10 posted on 01/12/2015 8:05:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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It is free, right? Who needs a plan when something is free? All government entitlements are free to those that receive them. Let’s just keep it up and add more free stuff. After all, we know that most Americans are stupid. I didn’t say that, Gruber did. </sarc


11 posted on 01/12/2015 8:06:06 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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12 posted on 01/12/2015 8:09:48 AM PST by offwhite
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It would be far more effective if this were directed to technical schools rather than colleges.

There are many, many who are not college material. Recent generations are losing the “craftsman” and “tradesman” class.


13 posted on 01/12/2015 8:16:54 AM PST by bestintxas (Every time a RINA is defeated a conservative gets his wings.)
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Free tuition at community colleges seems likely to greatly accelerate the tendency, already apparent, to take the first two years at a local CC before transferring to a much more expensive four year institution. The merits of this strategy vary from place to place, depending on the quality of the nearby institutions, but if the local CC is good and all the credits are transferable, the strategy makes a great deal of sense.

If the exodus becomes significant, the next phase will be a campaign by the four year schools for free undergraduate tuition across the board. I expect that is Obama's real endgame, although he will not be around long enough to implement it. If we're not careful, we will end up with German-style 40 year old professional students who have never worked a day in their lives, and have been supported all along by the state.

14 posted on 01/12/2015 8:34:37 AM PST by sphinx
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It always mystifies me that those who want to adopt this model ignore the fact that it hasn’t worked out all that well in Europe.


15 posted on 01/12/2015 8:51:32 AM PST by Academiadotorg
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Whether it has worked out depends on the objective. As far as education, skill building, and economic growth, it’s not so good. If the objective is disguising unemployment by parking large numbers of people in perptual schooling, then it is a “success.”


16 posted on 01/12/2015 9:19:42 AM PST by sphinx
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17 posted on 01/12/2015 9:21:33 AM PST by dfwgator
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Did you happen to notice that some wannabe terrorists were coming to the US on student visas for community college?

As it has been said, "There is nothing in this world that Obama can't break or make worse."

18 posted on 01/12/2015 9:51:24 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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there’s a lot to be said for it. For one thing, you can smoke on the job;>)


19 posted on 01/12/2015 11:43:41 AM PST by Academiadotorg
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