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1 posted on 11/29/2014 10:30:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Are these some of the same CEOs that supported its passage?


2 posted on 11/29/2014 10:36:34 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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"They don't understand why a plan in compliance with the ACA (Affordable Care Act) is the target of a lawsuit,"...

Lie down with dogs. Get up with fleas!

3 posted on 11/29/2014 10:36:50 AM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

CEOs who engage in crony capitalism deserve what they get when FedGov finally turns on them. The last time business tried to get in bed with a socialist government in a major western country, it did not turn out well. I find this second bite at the cronyism apple frightening, particularly since today’s head socialist is (miraculously) a worse human being than the national socialist leader three generations back.


4 posted on 11/29/2014 10:37:10 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The snake calmly replied... “but you knew I was a snake when you let me in.”


6 posted on 11/29/2014 10:41:36 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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They had to pass the bill to find out what was in it:

Obamacare allows financial incentives for workers taking part in workplace wellness programs of up to 50 percent of their monthly premiums, deductibles, and other costs. That translates into hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars in extra annual costs for those who do not participate.

Typically, participation means filling out detailed health questionnaires, undergoing medical screenings, and in some cases attending weight-loss or smoking-cessation programs.

One of the arguments presented in the lawsuit against three employers is that requiring medical testing violates the Americans with Disabilities Act.

That 1990 law, according to employment-law attorney Joseph Lazzarotti of Jackson Lewis P.C. in Morristown, N.J., largely prohibits requiring medical tests as part of employment.

"You can't make medical inquiries unless it's consistent with job-necessity, or part of a voluntary wellness program," he said.

The lawsuits are based on the view that it is no longer voluntary if employees face up to $4,000 in penalties for non-participation, loss of insurance or even their jobs.

Employers, however, see the lawsuits as reneging on the administration's commitment to an important part of the healthcare reform.

8 posted on 11/29/2014 10:47:19 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No redemption for any of these CEO’s that went along with it- they should be FIRED by the shareholders


9 posted on 11/29/2014 10:47:23 AM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

“You can keep your wellness program if you like your wellness program.”


11 posted on 11/29/2014 10:50:12 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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“The fact that the EEOC sued is shocking to our members,” said Maria Ghazal, vice-president and counsel at the Business Roundtable, a group of chief executives of more than 200 large U.S. corporations. …
Hmm. Sharia Obamacare? (Only guessing, given the origin of the name Ghazal . . .)
14 posted on 11/29/2014 10:52:49 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Obamacare allows financial incentives for workers taking part in workplace wellness programs of up to 50 percent of their monthly premiums, deductibles, and other costs. That translates into hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars in extra annual costs for those who do not participate. Typically, participation means filling out detailed health questionnaires, undergoing medical screenings, and in some cases attending weight-loss or smoking-cessation programs.

One of the arguments presented in the lawsuit against three employers is that requiring medical testing violates the Americans with Disabilities Act. That 1990 law, according to employment-law attorney Joseph Lazzarotti of Jackson Lewis P.C. in Morristown, N.J., largely prohibits requiring medical tests as part of employment. "You can't make medical inquiries unless it's consistent with job-necessity, or part of a voluntary wellness program," he said.

The lawsuits are based on the view that it is no longer voluntary if employees face up to $4,000 in penalties for non-participation, loss of insurance or even their jobs. Employers, however, see the lawsuits as reneging on the administration's commitment to an important part of the healthcare reform.

It used to be against the law for my employer to ask me certain personal questions, including questions about my health. I guess that's not the case any more.

16 posted on 11/29/2014 10:55:27 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: SeekAndFind; Gabz; All

These very same type of ‘Large Employers’ and CEOs went merrily along when smokers were targeted by healthcare companies!

Now that the smokers have either been pink slipped, or managed to quit to keep their jobs, they’re going after the fatties.

I mean seriously, what ELSE do you expect the prior Smoke Nazis and the current Commies in charge to do?

Hey! How about going after abhorrent ‘sex lifestyle choices’ that end up in disease and death?

*Crickets Chirping* *Rolleyes*

Predictable. To a Politically Correct point, that is!


21 posted on 11/29/2014 11:07:26 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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The programs aim to control healthcare costs by reducing smoking, obesity, hypertension and other risk factors that can lead to expensive illnesses. A bipartisan provision in the 2010 healthcare reform law allows employers to reward workers who participate and penalize those who don't. But recent lawsuits filed by the administration's Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), challenging the programs at Honeywell International and two smaller companies, have thrown the future of that part of Obamacare into doubt. The lawsuits infuriated some large employers so much that they are considering aligning themselves with Obama's opponents, according to people familiar with the executives' thinking. "The fact that the EEOC sued is shocking to our members," said Maria Ghazal, vice-president and counsel at the Business Roundtable, a group of chief executives of more than 200 large U.S. corporations. "They don't understand why a plan in compliance with the ACA (Affordable Care Act) is the target of a lawsuit," she said. "This is a major issue to our members."

Add homosexuality to the list of acts that are frowned upon because of health impact and lower lifespan and these boardroom execs will suddenly "get it" why equal opportunity workplace laws protect the "obese".

22 posted on 11/29/2014 11:09:37 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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It's about time some group out there did.


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26 posted on 11/29/2014 11:12:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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Since there is a loop hole in Obama care that will get businesses off the hook from being fined for hiring illegal, and not being forced to give health care or pay a penalty, I see a rash of lay offs for legal Americans.


27 posted on 11/29/2014 11:13:29 AM PST by mware
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This is so “Neville Chamberlain” of those CEO’s. They, the large company CEO’s, were attracted to the ACA because it gave them a way to shove health care costs off their income statements and onto the general public. They are just coming to realize that the Fed Gov has many ways of making them pay and never intended to live up to its promises and suggestions. The CEO’s thought they were insiders in this scam, now they are starting to realize that was never the case.


30 posted on 11/29/2014 11:40:56 AM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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All part of the plan to force us into “single payer,” where every health care penny passes through the sticky fingers of the feral government.


31 posted on 11/29/2014 11:43:22 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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"The fact that the EEOC sued is shocking to our members," said Maria Ghazal, vice-president and counsel at the Business Roundtable...

Thus illustrating that "businessmen" are among the most ignorant of the whole community. Did you stupid Babbits really believe the regime would not turn on you? Pathetic.

47 posted on 11/30/2014 8:17:14 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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