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Low traffic on ICC prompts calls for lower tolls to ease congestion on local roads
The Washington Post ^ | November 27, 2014 | Katherine Shaver

Posted on 11/28/2014 6:07:01 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Welmoed Sisson’s drive between her northern Montgomery County home and her business clients across the Maryland suburbs often includes a trip on the Intercounty Connector, a toll highway with so little traffic that Sisson can’t recall ever tapping her brakes.

Almost 19 miles of pavement with no one in her way. Ever. Not even at rush hour.

“It’s not an empty wasteland,” said Sisson, 54, who owns a home inspection business with her husband. “But it’s certainly nowhere near the volume of the free roads in the area. . . . It’s nice, but then again, you’re paying for that quiet.”

Sisson said the 20 minutes or more she can save and the stress-free drive are worth the $50 in ICC tolls her company typically pays every month. But the amount of open asphalt that remains on the ICC nearly four years after it first opened is prompting some to urge Maryland Gov.-elect Larry Hogan (R) to cut toll rates, particularly for regular commuters.

They say the Washington area’s traffic congestion is too severe to allow a six-lane highway to go significantly underused. The ICC, they say, could absorb far more traffic from heavily congested local roads in Montgomery and Prince George’s counties until the growth the highway was built to accommodate arrives. Tolls could be increased again over the years, they say, to keep it free-flowing as traffic builds.

Using the entire 18.8-mile highway between Interstate 270 in Gaithersburg and U.S. Route 1 in Laurel during rush hours costs $4.40 each way for passenger vehicles and $32.90 each way for the largest tractor-trailers.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: congestion; gaithersburg; icc; infrastructure; laurel; md200; mdta; tolls; traffic; transportation; underuse
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1 posted on 11/28/2014 6:07:02 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


2 posted on 11/28/2014 6:08:29 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That’s not how it works. Lower traffic calls for higher tolls. When the traffic decline is even steeper then the tolls have to be doubled to make up for lost revenue.Etc. Government work.


3 posted on 11/28/2014 6:09:33 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sounds like a profit maximization problem. It’s quite likely that lowering the tolls would in fact bring in more revenue than they are currently receiving. Sort of a Laffer Curve exercise.


4 posted on 11/28/2014 6:10:08 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It amazes me about that cash cow outer ring toll road outside of Denver costs. That toll road is almost like a payday loan place, a title pawn ripoff, or a pawn shop......

If you EVER approve a temporary toll road for ANYTHING, government will get so used to the income, they will fight tooth and nail to keep the tolls and NOT live up to the conditions of the initial approval. Liars, one and all.


5 posted on 11/28/2014 6:11:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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6 posted on 11/28/2014 6:13:02 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Gaffer
If you EVER approve a temporary toll road for ANYTHING, government will get so used to the income, they will fight tooth and nail to keep the tolls
NY State Thruway - 40 year bonds were paid off in 1996 ... tolls remain to this day.
7 posted on 11/28/2014 6:17:32 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Gaffer

Around Raleigh there is a toll road that can be inadvertently entered with out paying toll.

Weeks later, you get a toll bill in the mail. The camera took a photo of your license plate, went to the Tennessee DMV, looked up your address and then spent $.48 on postage for a $.41 toll

How’s that for government work?


8 posted on 11/28/2014 6:18:16 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: arthurus
Lower traffic calls for higher tolls

I had a small wholesale business in Florida in the 80s. Some of the retailers I supplied had that same approach. When business was down they raised their prices. Nothing I could say would change their minds.

9 posted on 11/28/2014 6:22:41 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: oh8eleven

Tried that here in Georgia on 400 and Governor got his ass bit. It’s gone now


10 posted on 11/28/2014 6:22:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: bert

I believe it. Government and government created ‘entities’ are all crooks. They should be lined up against a wall.


11 posted on 11/28/2014 6:24:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
maryland is THE Freak state. I "lived" in maryland while they built that waste of taxpayers' money. It is the usual DIM government boondoggle. Typical. maryland is hopeless...escape that LIB hell-hole while you can. Even a Repub gov is DIM lite in order to survive.
12 posted on 11/28/2014 6:28:39 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: babble-on
Good point.

In a case like that where the options include a "free" road and a parallel toll road, it really comes down to how much people value their time. If people are spending an extra 30-45 minutes in traffic to save a $4.40 toll, then that sounds like a miserable trade-off to me.

13 posted on 11/28/2014 6:30:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I drive it whenever it makes sense. That’s when there is heavy traffic on Beltway and I am headed to Montgomery Co.


14 posted on 11/28/2014 6:37:02 AM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 14 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Gaffer

When the Great and Glorious Illinois tollway’s bonds are paid off it will become a freeway! Opened in 1958.
But!
“A promise was made that once the bonds used to build the original 187 miles of the Illinois Tollway were paid off, the roads would become freeways. The promise was well-intentioned, but shortsighted.” http://www.illinoistollway.com/tolls-and-i-pass/toll-information

Screwed again.
Too bad, so sad.

N.B. The tollway commission needed their very own helicopter and many expensive toys.


15 posted on 11/28/2014 7:18:44 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good.)
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To: jimfree

I live in the Bethesda area and I take it when I am coming south on 95 and 495 is backed up or when traveling to Philly or NY from home and 495 is locked. It’s great for me...lower tolls always appreciated esp. in this state/county where they suck you dry.


16 posted on 11/28/2014 7:23:08 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

It won’t go away. The children and grandchildren of the Tollway political denizens depends on its perpetuation.


17 posted on 11/28/2014 7:24:23 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
The children and grandchildren of the Tollway political denizens depends on its perpetuation.

In Illinois we have mostly hereditary positions reserved for the aristocracy.

18 posted on 11/28/2014 7:58:12 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good.)
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To: arthurus
"That’s not how it works. Lower traffic calls for higher tolls. When the traffic decline is even steeper then the tolls have to be doubled to make up for lost revenue.Etc. Government work."

Exactly! This is the socialist / Marxist paradigm. Government sponsored theft until civil society collapses. Then the thugs and looters are free to once again become the new, albeit grimier lords of the realm and the rest of us are once again serfs, vassals and slaves.

19 posted on 11/28/2014 8:01:56 AM PST by Desron13
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The traffic volumes on the Denver E-470 tollway reminds me of the DC ICC traffic volume: practically deserted at all times. And for the same reason: the round trip toll cost on E-470 is nearly $34.00 for those without transponders.


20 posted on 11/28/2014 8:46:49 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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