Posted on 11/22/2014 6:36:27 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
A federal judge is weighing a request to hold the District in contempt of court for enacting new gun laws that are so restrictive as to be out of compliance with his order to allow for firearms to be carried publicly in the city.
During a hearing Thursday, U.S. District Judge Frederick J. Scullin Jr. asked the city and the plaintiffs fighting the regulations for additional filings on whether the city should be considered in contempt of his order that officials develop a licensing scheme consistent with constitutional standards enabling people to exercise their Second Amendment right to bear arms.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Well obviously yes.
But how can a city be held in contempt?
Is the judge going to build a wall around the city and jail the city?
This is not as it should be. The judge should order the mayor responsible for these outrages against the free people of the United States jailed immediately for no less than ten days and order that the offending ordnances be rescinded. If they are not the mayor and city council should be jailed for thirty days.
Public officials that act against the freedom of the people should face prison. Nothing less can protect the people from those who will whittle away at our freedoms. Such people are not discouraged by fines that will not come out of their pockets.
Officials that would take the peoples freedom should experience a personal loss of freedom so that they will know the pain of its loss and not inflict it on others needlessly.
BTTT
The judge should both arrest the mayor AND declare the city a constitutional carry area, until such a time reasonable rules for CCW permits are established!
That would get those bastards off their ass and writing new rules in record time. I bet it wouldn’t take over 24 hours!
Is the judge going to build a wall around the city and jail the city?
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Wouldn’t that be nice?
“But how can a city be held in contempt?”
Jail the entire City Council and the Mayor until they get their minds right. That’s how.
The judge should just declare all DC carry laws invalid, thus immediately imposing Constitutional carry, until such point that the council passes constitutional laws.
Federal laws against felons being in possession of firearms would still apply.
I agree. If he made it a constitutional carry area the DC gubmint would set a record in writing an acceptable law to replace that.
More like the DC city attorney, prosecutors and chief of police and individual officer not following the law wouldn’t it ? Not having read the article ....like a good freeper...:o) ...Ordinances per the city council and mayor don’t hold water over law there does it ?
Stay safe !
Not sure about that. Ideally Congress would do their Constitutional duty and yank DC’s “home rule” status. But that would require Congress to actually spend time running a municipality instead of constantly treating a nation of 375 million people like we are all retarded 10 year old children.
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Well at least build the wall around that bit of the city that contains Pennsylvania Ave.
The city also describes the Mayor, Chief of Police and others of the political persuasion - they are the ones working hard to negate what the judge ruled.
The DC episode has been going on for well over twenty years, way before the President arrived.
When you go back to the mid-80s, cocaine arrived in DC, and the murder rate started climb well over 100 per year (an area of six by six miles, so you go and figure the odds here). I think at the peaks...around 1990, they’d gotten up around 350 in one year. When I moved in 2010 to the region, I talked to a guy who was around at the time of the escalation.
In his mind, everyone in the early 90s was getting a gun, and they had people getting into arguments over mundane things, and shooting others. So the city idiots at the time, decided that it was best to just try and make it impossible to own a gun. All Democratic council....easily done.
Between 2010 and 2013 when I left...we had two curious episodes around guns. We had some kid attacked on the streets of DC one weekend by wild dogs (I was in disbelief that a urban area like that could have the problem)....guy comes out of the house and shoots one dog dead. Cops come....pat the guy on the back....then give him a note to come and visit a judge because he illegally had a gun and fired it within city limits. Cop tried to write the original report to show the guy shot the dog from his property, so he had reason to protect himself. Don’t know how the judge handled the episode.
Second episode involved some landscape guy mowing grass and left his broom on the street. Taxi guy (Latino) pulls by and thinks the broom was left by someone....goes to grab it....the landscaper yells for him and comes running up. Cabbie gets fearful....pulls another illegal gun and shoots the unarmed landscaper in broad daylight on a summer afternoon. Cops arrest the cabbie. Dead landscape guy.
In some ways, the city is right....way too much potential for stupid use, but not enough cops to guard the city twenty-four hours a day. Lost cause in my mind if you live there.
If a federal judge can declare laws against queer marriage unconstitutional and void, they can do the same damn thing to any gun law!
Give the liberal aholes a taste of their own medicine, legislating from the bench.
He already did that. The rules were thrown out, and in lieu of immediate and complete constitutional carry, D.C. was given a chance to write sensible rules. They completely & maliciously blew their chance. Now is time for the judge to declare the opportunity wasted and constitutional carry the new norm.
I knew that.
The question was an introduction to the thoughts in the rest of the post.
My primary point in the post is that financial punishments levied on the city do nothing to counteract the basic problem that those in leadership positions in the city have no respect for individual rights.
What’s to consider, Judge? Every governmental agency and department has contempt for all Americans — including you! Put those responsible for contempt of court in the DC jail until their attitude improves. I’d try five years for a start.
What you say is especially true if the citizens actually agree with the leaders that bring the extra expense to them via this sort of suit. It would be much better if it were possible to fine/punish those who make the decisions that harm those they purport to represent. Who knows - once in a while the citizens wake up long enough to remove such folks - but then again we are talking about the place that reelected Marion Barry again...
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