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Pathologist says Brown autopsy quotes in Post-Dispatch were taken out of context
Washington Post ^ | 10/29/2014 | Kimberly Kindy

Posted on 10/30/2014 8:55:39 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

A forensic pathologist quoted in a St. Louis Post-Dispatch story about the shooting death of Michael Brown said some of her statements concerning the autopsy were taken out of context.

... Melinek said she did not assert that a gunshot wound on Brown's hand showed that he was reaching for Wilson's gun during a struggle while the officer was in a police SUV and Brown was standing at the driver's window, as the Post-Dispatch reported.

Melinek told the Washington Post that the autopsy facts could be viewed differently.

"Bullet trajectory analysis is complex, ad you cannot interpret autopsy reports in a vacuum" she wrote in an e-mail. "You need scene data and the witness statements. When a forensic expert says something "appears to be" or is "consistent with" the findings, that doesn't mean it is the only explanation. It means it is one possible explanation - one that fits the current forensic data. That opinion might change as other data comes to light.

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: blackkk; brown; darrenwilson; ericholder; ferguson; guns; kenyanbornmuzzie; michaelbrown; missouri; stlouispostdispatch; washingtonpost
It is simply this: The Post-Dispatch - a "news" paper - was quoted by WaPo. Instead of WaPo coming out and stating what they are actually doing here (and they are basically issuing a retraction) they instead decided to toss the St. Louis Post-Dispatch under the bus. How convenient...
1 posted on 10/30/2014 8:55:39 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Helping to soften the blow......


2 posted on 10/30/2014 8:59:53 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

So what are the possibile explanations?

1.) Brown did not reach for the gun, but was shot.

2.) Brown reached for the gun and was shot.

All the witnesses say that there was a scuffle though.

Nonetheless, eyewitness testimony (including eyewitness testimony from another eyewitness - Officer Darren Wilson - tends to be unreliable.


3 posted on 10/30/2014 9:00:59 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

IIRC, from the original reported denial by the pathologist, it struck me that she did not want to agree with the police version of the incident, but suggested that the evidence didn’t “jive” with St. Swisher’s accomplice’s version.


4 posted on 10/30/2014 9:02:40 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: maddog55

How could a (as-close-to-a-retraction-as-you-can-get retraction) from the Washington Post help to soften the blow, if the pre-retraction article from WaPo was supposedly meant to soften the blow?


5 posted on 10/30/2014 9:03:35 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Calvin Locke

Everything that I have read so far from her points to one thing: The St. Louis Post-Dispatch’s article posited one possible conclusion from her remarks which, according to her, they shouldn’t have done.

She hasn’t denied anything, but is out to coorect some bad reporting, and has asserted that her quotes were taken out of context and misrepresneted.


6 posted on 10/30/2014 9:07:46 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
3) Brown was on his knees, hands held high, begging for his life, with his back to officer Wilson. Wilson then ran at Brown, throwing himself into a high arcing somersault, during which he shot Brown in the top of the head, and through his raised hand (at close range). Upon coming back to earth, officer Wilson continued to shoot Brown from a frontal aspect, as he rolled away. Who hasn't seen similar types of incidents in documentaries like The Matrix and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon?

See, the evidence is completely consistent with Brown being on his knees, hands up, when shot.

Only a racist couldn't see what clearly happened.

7 posted on 10/30/2014 9:10:17 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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2 possible explanations surrounding the scuffle (part B) of which Part A was listed in post #2:

Part B:

1.) There was a scuffle which led to Darren Wilson pulling his gun on Michael Brown.

2.) The scuffle was a reaction from Michael Brown to Darren Wilson pulling his gun on Brown.


8 posted on 10/30/2014 9:12:03 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t see a retraction.

She’s saying that just because it jives with one person’s testimony, doesn’t mean it won’t fit with another person’s testimony as well.


9 posted on 10/30/2014 9:12:18 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The pathologist refers to the “back” of the arm and the “front” of the arm. Folks might be less confused if she used the terms “inside” and “outside” of the arm. That way, the low-IQ Yutes in America would be less likely to assume that the Gentle Giant was shot from the “back”.


10 posted on 10/30/2014 9:14:29 AM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: SampleMan

You are conflating another part into this.

There A.) was the scuffle between the two, which all eyewitnesses agree upon (including those that agree with Wilson and those that don’t).

B.) Brown reached for Darren Wilson’s gun and was shot, or did not reach for his gun and was shot. Which then leads to two other possibilities: The scuffle led to Wilson pulling his gun out on Brown, or the scuffle came after the gun was pulled.

The part that you list is after all of this.

This part needs to be dealt with before that.

And no need to bring in racism. No one, not even a police oficer, has absolute credibility.

ALL eyewitness testimony (including eyewitnes testimony from the police officer, along witgh the eyewitness testimony from those who don’t agree with Wilson’s story) is subject to skepticism.

That way all bais can be avoided.


11 posted on 10/30/2014 9:19:48 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: BunnySlippers

She is saying that there are multiple possibilities here as to what happened, something which the Post-Dispatch apparently did not fathom.

When the Post-Dispatch article originally stated that her analysis lined up with Darren Wilson’s account that was botched reporting on their part.


12 posted on 10/30/2014 9:25:30 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The Jolly Teen Giant attacked officer Wilson and was shot, several times. See how easy that was, no contortions to distort the facts.


13 posted on 10/30/2014 9:43:30 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The Post-Distpatch article was no more “botched reporting” than 90% of the reporting on this incident. When I read it, I just got the impression that her reading of the report was that it was consistent with Wilson’s version — which it is, apparently. What it does not do is PROVE Wilson’s version, or exclude all the non-Wilson versions.

The Post-Dispatch article was a lot more balanced than most of the articles bouncing off of it, IMHO.


14 posted on 10/30/2014 10:13:48 AM PDT by Amity
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well, it goes without saying that before the shooting, Brown was being controlled by Wilson’s Jedi mind control, which forced him to steal the cigars and scuffle with Wilson, before he used his gentle giant strength to overcome Wilson’s mental grip and to flee.

I don’t see how you can ever disregard the charge of racism? Brown had likely suffered at least 50 micro-aggressions just that day.


15 posted on 10/30/2014 10:31:43 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Beagle8U

But, but he was such a good little sprout.

16 posted on 10/30/2014 10:42:08 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

clearly a case of Charlie Yankee alpha......


17 posted on 10/30/2014 3:43:19 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There's one there, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Michael Brown clearly robbed a store and assaulted the clerk, he then took his dangerous,aggressive bad attitude to the streets.

I understand that there are bad cops, people have been beaten up and/or killed. I was roughed up by a police officer in my youth (I am a WASP for full disclosure) on one occasion, had done nothing wrong

I understand that there are bad cops, bad everything, but clearly in this case the officer really was up against a aggressive angry fellow, he is clearly innocent.

A fair juror could never convict this officer after seeing the video, this case should never see the inside of a courtroom as far as I am concerned.

This guys attitude was going to get him killed, was just a matter of time. Not the officers fault


18 posted on 10/31/2014 1:44:26 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Justice for officer Darren------------ PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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