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One Cop’s View On Video Cameras [VIDEO]
dailycaller.com ^ | 10-20-2014 | Deputy Matt

Posted on 10/21/2014 7:35:20 AM PDT by servo1969

Video cameras? Yes please! Give me one. Maybe two or three.

I am absolutely a HUGE proponent of law enforcement using in-car and body mounted cameras. Some ask why I feel so strongly about the subject, and to them I offer the following personal anecdote.

I have personally benefited greatly from the video obtained by a digital video camera, the in-car camera system in my patrol car. A number of years ago, I was involved in an incident where, as I arrived at the scene of a call, I came under fire by a suspect armed with a rifle. I survived the firefight, he did not. Since this incident occurred in a residential suburban neighborhood, at night, there was no one else around. Without my in-car camera, it could have been my word against the word of bereaved family members, who were not present, telling their story of woe and how their lost loved one was a good guy who would never hurt anyone. Sound remotely familiar? Like an incident that happened just weeks ago in St. Louis? Sandwich gun?

There was much more to that story, I have only given the condensed version. The second part of that incident was captured by three different digital video cameras: mine, my cover officer’s and a third camera on a passing public transit bus. While that incident would likely have never reached a Ferguson level, even without video, it was quickly put to rest thanks to all the video evidence. There were no concerns about “faulty memories” or “blurry recollections,” or worse, concerns about lying cops. It was all there, on video, in vivid color. Case closed.

This has happened time and again when allegations of officer misconduct up to and including officer-involved shootings are captured on camera. Very often, the officer’s camera saves the officer’s butt. Recently, a preacher in North Carolina made allegations that an officer had mistreated him during a vehicle stop. The police department responded by releasing video captured by the in-car camera. That video clearly shows the officer being polite and professional. Yet another instance of a camera saving the day.

Video Proves Pastor, NAACP Lied About Police Mistreatment

Law enforcement video cameras, both body cameras and in-car cameras, have been in the news quite a bit lately. When I started my career, the only camera we had available to us as regular patrol cops was a Polaroid instant camera, and if you were lucky, you managed to score some color film for it. Fast forward about five years and I was on the team to evaluate the various options considered for my department’s first in-car camera system. The one we chose was a large, clunky system that recorded on VHS tapes, but it worked.

The problem with that first system, other than the difficulty of storing the video tapes, was not a problem with the system itself, but rather in getting the cops to accept it. The big brother rumors were flying like crazy. Many of the “OG” cops were adamantly opposed to them, initially. Slowly, as the video captured by those cameras was shown to help us (the cops) far more than it ever was used to hurt us, even some of the staunchest haters started to change their tune.

Our latest version of the in-car camera system has two digital HD cameras that capture a forward view out the windshield and the rear seat of the patrol car. The system is excellent and the video quality is phenomenal. Sadly, only a few cars have so far installed that new system, but they are slowly being phased in.

While the in-car camera has become fairly commonplace and widely accepted in law enforcement, another recent invention, the body camera, has not. A few agencies have deployed them, but right now those are the exceptions to the rule. Expect that to change, very quickly.

Incidents like Officer Darren Wilson’s shooting in Ferguson, and the more recent shooting of the ”teen armed only with a sandwich,” who somehow tested positive for gunshot residue, would have been quickly solved had the officer been wearing body cameras. It would be impossible to call the veracity of the officer’s narrative into question if anyone could watch the video and judge for themselves.

The following is an excellent example of a video that captured an officer involved shooting, which removes any and all doubt about what occurred. The shooting took place in Daytona in September, 2013.

Caution, this video is graphic and shows the actual shooting of the suspect.
Body Cam - Daytona Police Shooting - Two Body Cams / Two Angles

However, as much as I am in favor of body cameras, they definitely present some problems that in-car cameras do not. Unlike in-car cameras, which can be set up to activate automatically when the emergency lights are activated or when crash sensors think a collision has occurred, body cams do not have the same abilities. This begs the question, when is the camera supposed to be active and when is the officer allowed to turn it off? If it is only to be activated during an encounter with the public, what happens if the officer in an extremely urgent situation forgets to activate his body cam?

There are also public privacy concerns. In normal daily activity these might not be a problem, but when officers take statements from a molested child or sexual assault victim, the camera’s presence could be a big concern, for good reason.

My last concern is a pissed-off supervisor on a witch hunt. Anyone who has been working long enough has likely encountered a supervisor on a job who made it their personal mission to punish employees. Sadly, those sorry folks also find their way into law enforcement. In my law enforcement career, I have witnessed an angry supervisor (long retired now) perform an illegal search of an employee’s locker because he was looking for dirt on that employee. I know of current, spiteful supervisors who have reviewed months’ worth of the GPS data collected by our computer dispatch system to try and build a case on an employee who they did not like. I can only imagine what similarly minded people would do with access to body camera footage.

Despite those concerns, I am a strong supporter of body cameras. Like everything in life, there are pros and cons that need to be considered; but, in my mind, the benefits offered by body cameras far outweigh any disadvantages.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; camera; cops; ferguson; gunrights; jbt; police; secondamendment; video
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1 posted on 10/21/2014 7:35:20 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Like every psychopath that rises to power, BO cares only about what furthers his personal satisfaction. He is the model of organized crime bosses since the time of Marxism’s inception. He is a killer at heart should it fit his goals.


2 posted on 10/21/2014 7:40:43 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Sorry, posted on the wrong thread.


3 posted on 10/21/2014 7:41:30 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: servo1969

The fact that Officer Wilson and the Ferguson Police department had just received these personal cameras, but had not yet put them in the field is too bad.

Or is it? I believe that even video evidence of Mike Brown punching the cop, trying to grab his gun, and then being justifiably shot would not be enough for the savages to pull up their pants and stop the looting and rioting.


4 posted on 10/21/2014 7:44:30 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: servo1969

First video - The rest of the story:
http://www.wbtv.com/story/26364569/video-obtained-after-pastor-naacp-claim-police-mistreatment

Second video - The rest of the story:
http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20140408/NEWS/140409538


5 posted on 10/21/2014 7:49:08 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Neoliberalnot

Really? Seems to me that reply is appropriate for any and all threads.


6 posted on 10/21/2014 7:49:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Maybe the wrong thread, but you’re still correct.


7 posted on 10/21/2014 7:53:08 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: servo1969

Could ask the company that designed the GoPro to develop one that turns on and starts recording when the charging cable is disconnected.

Could have it so that the cable is connected to the car, and when they jump out, there’s no no clip or locking mechanism to hold the cable securely; something happens, cop jumps out, cable comes out, and it starts recording. Could also have wifi built in for a backup. And, there could be loud chimes to let them know its powered on and recording.


8 posted on 10/21/2014 8:21:07 AM PDT by wastedyears (I may be stupid, but at least I'm not Darwin Awards stupid.)
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To: wastedyears

What if it activated and deactivated based on the seat belt in the patrol car?

Undo seat belt - body cameras turn on.
Put on seat belt - body cameras turn off.

Would that work?


9 posted on 10/21/2014 8:28:23 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
The problem with that first system, other than the difficulty of storing the video tapes, was not a problem with the system itself, but rather in getting the cops to accept it. The big brother rumors were flying like crazy.

Damn straight it's Big Brother. Citizens can beef about invasion of privacy, somebody who's allowed to drag me off to jail or shoot me can't. Every part of our legal system, from the street to the courtroom to the jail, is worthy of oversight.

10 posted on 10/21/2014 8:29:10 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: servo1969

Why would I want to talk to a cop when everything is recorded?

I think I want my lawyer now.....


11 posted on 10/21/2014 8:42:15 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Sorry, posted on the wrong thread.

Let those who have not sinned cast the first stone.

12 posted on 10/21/2014 8:49:37 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The flip side of that is that the officers will be more professional if they know they are being recorded.

Intimidating people into “voluntary” searches would certainly be harder.


13 posted on 10/21/2014 8:50:39 AM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: servo1969
I have become desensitized to violence, I guess. I have no feelings when I see a thug getting shot by a police officer while trying to stab an innocent women. (See link of 2 different on body camera videos of this pos getting shot with a knife in his hand)

I am fed up with the thuggery. I am all for the police on body cameras, it will backfire on the civil rights pimps just like their outcry for dash cameras did.

14 posted on 10/21/2014 9:09:36 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: servo1969

That would have to be a wireless system. Dunno how well it would work. There’s always the chance for failure with electronics.

Each one would have to be tested multiple times before being sent off from the factory.


15 posted on 10/21/2014 9:13:12 AM PDT by wastedyears (I may be stupid, but at least I'm not Darwin Awards stupid.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I strongly favor making Barky wear a body camera.


16 posted on 10/21/2014 11:56:42 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Clappin' the Blues (remix)" [slightly NSFW] - http://youtu.be/p9d2iHSfRmE)
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To: servo1969

“This begs the question, when is the camera supposed to be active and when is the officer allowed to turn it off? “

Every second you’re on duty. That includes in the head. Turning it off for any reason should be a no mercy “you’re fired” offense.


17 posted on 10/21/2014 12:00:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

A revolting thought; BO with a body camera. Can you imagine waking up with an ape like Moochie in your bed.


18 posted on 10/21/2014 12:35:18 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Can you imagine waking up with an ape like Moochie in your bed.

That's uncalled for.

19 posted on 10/21/2014 12:43:46 PM PDT by sargon
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To: Neoliberalnot

Self-government is a nontrivial burden.


20 posted on 10/21/2014 1:01:08 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Clappin' the Blues (remix)" [slightly NSFW] - http://youtu.be/p9d2iHSfRmE)
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