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Medical Journal Pushes Killing Patients for Their Organs
Life News ^ | 10/8/14 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 10/08/2014 12:49:48 PM PDT by wagglebee

To donate vital organs, a donor must be dead. Tough this is known as the “dead donor rule,” I have been warning that utilitarian bioethicists and transplant medical professionals want to shatter the DDR to permit killing living living profoundly cognitively disabled patients for their organs.

Now, we see what appears to me to be a push poll type question in a study measuring popular support for such a change in the law.

A push poll seeks to obtain a desired answer by the way the question is framed. Here is the question from “Abandoning the Dead Donor Rule?” in the Journal of Medical Ethics:

Jason has been in a very bad car accident. He suffered a severe head injury and is now in the hospital. As a result of the injury, Jason is completely unconscious.

He cannot hear or feel anything, cannot remember or think about anything, he is not aware of anything, and his condition is irreversible. Jason will never wake up.

As we have seen in recent stories of awake and aware patients diagnosed in a persistent vegetative state–and perhaps, the Jahi McMath brain death case–this question sets up a false premise. Few, if any, cases are this clear cut,this sure. Indeed, the more we learn about the brain and consciousness, the less we know–as demonstrated by the proven brain interactivity in some patients thought to be completely unaware.

Thus, it seems to me that the question was posed in this unrealistic way to obtain a desired result of allowing the harvest.

Back to the question:

He also cannot breathe without mechanical support, but is on a breathing machine that keeps his lungs working. Without the machine, Jason’s heart and all other organs would stop within minutes. Although he will never wake up and cannot breathe without the support of the machine, Jason is still biologically alive.

In such scenarios, a patient can already be a donor by having life support removed, and IF – it doesn’t always happen as expected – he goes into cardiac arrest, be declared dead a few minutes later and obtain organs.

But that important fact isn’t mentioned in the question posed:

Before the injury, Jason wanted to be an organ donor. The organs will function best if they are removed while Jason’s heart is still beating and while he is still on the breathing machine. If the organs are removed while Jason is still on the machine, he would die from the removal of organs (in other words, the surgery would cause Jason’s biological death).

The question then asks how many people think that would be okay, and based on the push poll nature of the question, obtain a majority support for killing for organs.

Moreover, were the dead donor rule be killed, the patients harvested would not be limited to the relatively few cases such as described above.

Polling is like statistics, you can make them say anything.

LifeNews.com Note: Wesley J. Smith, J.D., is a special consultant to the Center for Bioethics and Culture and a bioethics attorney who blogs at Human Exeptionalism.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bioethics; culturewar; deathindustry; deathpanels; euthanasia; followthemoney; ghouls; graverobbers; medicalethics; moralabsolutes; organharvesting; prodeath; prolife
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If the left gets its way America will have death squads who will just kill people as needed for organs.
1 posted on 10/08/2014 12:49:48 PM PDT by wagglebee
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3 posted on 10/08/2014 12:50:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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If you are hurt call 9-1-1 and hope the ambulance arrives before the organ truck


4 posted on 10/08/2014 12:51:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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5 posted on 10/08/2014 12:51:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Had a relative tell me that, “the majority of Americans thought Terri Schiavo should die”. I was shocked that this relative would quote a poll as to a human being being condemned to death. What a slippery slope.

This “poll” doesn’t surprise me.
Sad


6 posted on 10/08/2014 12:55:01 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: wagglebee

A good reason to not fill out a donor card, that way you don’t go in for something nonfatal and wind up getting whacked for your organs!


7 posted on 10/08/2014 12:55:46 PM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: wagglebee

The EXEMPT Princes:
"Your children's organs are for us, our families and staff.
and THAT is why WE .... are EXEMPT."

8 posted on 10/08/2014 12:57:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: wagglebee

If this goes through I’m gonna have Jim Beam sponsor me.

When I’m done with this liver and kidneys I’ll get new ones from a recently “Whacked” donor.


9 posted on 10/08/2014 12:58:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: GeronL

Sadly, I have first hand experience with this. You are not kidding.


10 posted on 10/08/2014 12:58:40 PM PDT by machogirl
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Just a word to the wise: It’s fine to be an organ donor, but make sure you don’t check the “live organ donor” box. Especially if you have a family to support.


11 posted on 10/08/2014 1:00:58 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: wagglebee
Larry Niven visited this subject in 1968. Eventually, all crimes were punishable by death.


12 posted on 10/08/2014 1:06:34 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The queen is their slave.)
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Monty Python did, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aclS1pGHp8o


13 posted on 10/08/2014 1:14:33 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: wagglebee

I’m safe, everything is slap wore out!!


14 posted on 10/08/2014 1:14:46 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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ping


15 posted on 10/08/2014 1:19:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“organs” doesn’t mean just “organs”. It is your entire body. Bones, skin, tendons, collagen.... They use “organs” as all encompassing.


16 posted on 10/08/2014 1:20:59 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: wagglebee

Simple market-based solution; allow people or their families to sell their organs upon death.


17 posted on 10/08/2014 1:22:08 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: wagglebee

“Big Oil” ain’t got nothin’ on “Big Obolacare” in the greed department.


18 posted on 10/08/2014 1:22:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: wagglebee

When the option first became available to sign a card to go with your drivers’ license, indicating that you were willing to be an organ donor, I signed right away and told my Dad. He said he would never do that. He said, “What if they take my organ and I’m not totally dead yet?” I thought, “wow, are you paranoid”.

Now, as in so many things, Dad is looking pretty wise.


19 posted on 10/08/2014 1:24:45 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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The best defense is to get on medications that make your organs somewhat less than desirable.
20 posted on 10/08/2014 1:25:34 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want a Speaker who'll stick that pen and phone where no one but Reggie Love can find it!)
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