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1 posted on 10/01/2014 6:36:29 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
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To: Academiadotorg

Wow, as one who started out with a double major in math and physics and consequently found advanced degrees quite easy due to the heavy math fosted upon me by that first major, I’m sooooooo glad that these education doofuses (spelled correctly?) were not around to ruin me before I learned from intelligent teachers.

Find these folks, tie them up, burn them, and launch their ashes into the sun.

Now!


2 posted on 10/01/2014 6:40:11 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Academiadotorg

I recall when they instituted the “New Math”. That too was a colossal failure.


3 posted on 10/01/2014 6:42:01 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Academiadotorg

$7.60 worth of apples? That’s alot of apples.


4 posted on 10/01/2014 6:44:51 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Academiadotorg

The only way to learn the multiplication tables is by rote memorization. 3rd grade students had to memorize the entire set from 1x1 to 12x12 when I was a kid. I have heard some places went as high as 15x15.................


8 posted on 10/01/2014 6:50:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Academiadotorg

You can learn arithmetic the way they are teaching Common Core, sure.

But without getting past “having to figure out the arithmetic”, you’ll never advance to any semi to advanced mathematics.

For that, the arithmetic has to be automatic, memorized, rote.


9 posted on 10/01/2014 6:50:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Academiadotorg

“How much change should the cashier return to Elizabeth? “

The first thing Elizabeth should be taught is...

COUNT YOUR CHANGE rather than relying on Shaniqua to give you the correct change.


11 posted on 10/01/2014 6:51:48 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Academiadotorg

My 3rd grade grandaughter used to love math. Now it’s sheer torture for her & those who try to help.


12 posted on 10/01/2014 6:54:13 AM PDT by FES0844 (lAID)
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To: Academiadotorg

Wrong answer; the correct response is she gets to keep none of it: hungry unemployed rob her outside the store, ‘cause they need to “get paid”.


13 posted on 10/01/2014 6:58:20 AM PDT by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: Academiadotorg

As a former grocery store cashier, this is simply ‘counting back’ change. It’s a skill every teenage should know - but AFTER they learn how to do traditional addition and subtraction!

I wonder how many McWorkers can count back change. I bet most are completely dependent on the register to tell them the correct amount of change to give.


15 posted on 10/01/2014 7:08:34 AM PDT by freemama
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To: Academiadotorg
follow a process similar to Elizabeth’s actual mental computation

I can gather a couple of things from this example:

1. I must have missed something in school because I've never had an "actual mental computation" like that.
And
2. Elizabeth has trouble making timely decisions and is in need of therapy.

I was helping my 10 yr old grandson with his math homework this last weekend. I've work in the Apollo and Shuttle programs and couldn't figgure out what in the hell they were talking about!

16 posted on 10/01/2014 7:10:33 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Academiadotorg
follow a process similar to Elizabeth’s actual mental computation

I can gather a couple of things from this example:

1. I must have missed something in school because I've never had an "actual mental computation" like that.
And
2. Elizabeth has trouble making timely decisions and is in need of therapy.

I was helping my 10 yr old grandson with his math homework this last weekend. I've work in the Apollo and Shuttle programs and couldn't figgure out what in the hell they were talking about!

17 posted on 10/01/2014 7:10:56 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Academiadotorg

I bought 2 boxes of apples at the market Saturday.

Apples were $23.00 a box

I gave the Common Core educated clerk a $50.00 bill.

He gave me $75.00 in change.

So, I’m fer it.


24 posted on 10/01/2014 7:22:10 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Beware of "enviromentalist" spewing lies)
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Step #2?

How do you know you need 10.00 for the outcome? Why not 25,000? Do you just keep adding 10 till it works out, or do you add up to the next step of currency?

What a load!

30 posted on 10/01/2014 7:53:09 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Academiadotorg; metmom

Home school ping.


32 posted on 10/01/2014 8:16:50 AM PDT by upchuck (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care.)
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To: Academiadotorg; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

34 posted on 10/01/2014 8:56:05 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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I understand the underlying point the Common Core folks are trying to make, and it’s not without any worth. For more complex arithmetic problems, absent paper, pencil, or calculator, I might start off with an estimate and then adjust it. So, if I’m taking 28% of 445,668. I might start off with 28% of 500,000, which is 140,000. Then, subtract 14,000 (getting me to 28% of 450,000) and then subtract another 1,260 (getting me to 28% of 446,000), and so on. Or, if a rough number will do for the moment, I may stop at that point.

But if I look at the subtraction problem 20 - 7.6, the answer 12.4 pretty much jumps into my head.


35 posted on 10/01/2014 9:07:29 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Academiadotorg

The goal of Common Core math is the same as for whole-word reading: To LIMIT the ability of the student.

If you can add 24 and 89 the old-fashioned way, you can add any two numbers - and even whole piles of numbers.

But with Common Core math (as in the OP example) your ability to add numbers is LIMITED to what you can hold in your brain.

So unless your last name is Trachtenberg :-D, you’ll never be able to calculate beyond two or three digits. And THAT is the goal.


40 posted on 10/01/2014 9:39:04 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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“However, this does not teach the student to do math as it is done in everyday life; it simply involves plugging new numbers into an algorithm learned through hours of rote memorization. Under the Common Core, the student instead would follow a process similar to Elizabeth’s actual mental computation while standing at the register:

$7.60 + $.40 = $8.00

$8.00 + $2.00 = $10.00

$10.00 + $10.00 = $20.00

“The cashier should give Elizabeth $12.40 in change.

“This is exactly how someone with a strong grasp of numeracy does calculations on a daily basis. Furthermore, solving the problem in this way teaches the relationship between different values far more effectively than the traditional method of plugging numbers into a formula. It is critical that students grasp the concepts behind subtraction before they rely solely on the traditional algorithm.”

She lies. That isn't so.

There is no "$0.40" piece. You need to still come up with the $0.25+$0.05 pieces or the $0.25+5x$0.01 pieces or 4x$0.10 pieces or 40x$0.01 pieces or 8x$0.05 pieces or 2x$0.10 pieces + 2x$0.05 pieces + 5x$0.01 pieces...

New math is hard

48 posted on 10/01/2014 11:41:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: Academiadotorg

The best description I can associate with common core is “insane”.

It does, however, remind me of a psychology student conducting research on memory loss. Three elderly men agreed to the test. The student asked the first man, “What is 3 times 3?” The man replied, “ 274”. The student rolled her eyes and asked the second gentleman, “What is 3 times 3?”. The man replied, “Tuesday”. Dumbfounded, the student asked the third man, “What is 3 times 3?” The man answered, “9.” The student asked how he came up with that answer and he replied, “It was simple....I just subtracted 274 from Tuesday.”

Common Core is no laughing matter, but at times, levity preserves sanity.

EODGUY


53 posted on 10/01/2014 1:37:31 PM PDT by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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