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Mark Reckless defects to UKIP from Tories
BBC News ^ | 9/27/2014 | BBC

Posted on 09/27/2014 8:24:35 PM PDT by Nextrush

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To: Leaning Right

Amen.....


21 posted on 09/28/2014 6:12:59 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: dfwgator

No, we don’t need a USIP because it would help liberals. The Republicans need to be reformed to bring conservative voices to Washington instead of agreeing with Marxists.


22 posted on 09/28/2014 6:35:51 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Leaning Right

agree


23 posted on 09/28/2014 7:19:44 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ICCtheWay
The GOP/RNC cannot be reformed - they have to be sidestepped... and done away with eventually ...

I pretty much agree with you, in principle. The current GOP leaders are out for themselves, and they care about nothing else. But it will take time to form a viable third party. And even more time to get that party strong financially.

During that organizational time, the far-left will have an uninterrupted stay at the White House, where they will do enormous, perhaps irreparable, damage. Sadly, it's not like the early 1800's, when the federal government was weaker.

Perhaps I'm being too pessimistic, but that's the way I see it. Realistically, our best chance is reform from within.

But wait...there is another path. If somehow we could reform election law to allow for run-offs, then a third party would make very good sense.

24 posted on 09/28/2014 7:35:18 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Thst’s what they say in England, voting for UKIP means “RED ED” Milliband.

But UKIP is spreading like wildfire into Labour Party areas of the country, too.

Left and Right voters in the UK know the political machines of the major parties serve elites and are giving them the shaft, just like Dems and Reps do in this country.


25 posted on 09/28/2014 10:18:55 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Robert DeLong

UKIP started as anti-EU but has become a party opposing the forces of all the major parties who along with the business and media elite, support the UK being in the EU.

At first UKIP took voters away from the Conservatives.

One of the worst aspects of EU membership is lack of control over the UK borders leading to a massive unstoppable influx of immigrants.

This has lowered wages and UKIP is now tapping into Left leaning Labour voters who know their party leaders are shafting them by staying in the EU that forces the UK to accept the flood of lower wage immmigrants.

UKIP got 30 percent of the vote in Rotheram in northern England in the EU Parliament elections, a Labour stronghold.

Many Labour voters are now shocked to learn that the sexual abuse of 14-hundred or more children was covered up by the Labour party officials at local and national level in Rotheram. Labour was afraid to prosecute because the perps were Pakistani immigrants. They were afraid of the racism charge being leveled.

UKIP is blasting away at this corruption and saying it demonstrates the failure of political correctness and multiculturalism.


26 posted on 09/28/2014 10:30:22 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Other than the Reagan years, the Republican Party has never been a conservative party.


27 posted on 09/28/2014 11:39:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: dfwgator

64?


28 posted on 09/28/2014 11:43:46 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

I didn’t get the impression that most Republicans had Goldwater’s back.


29 posted on 09/28/2014 11:44:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: dfwgator

I was in HS, but they did nominate him.


30 posted on 09/28/2014 11:49:38 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Nextrush

Good information, thanks.


31 posted on 09/28/2014 4:27:40 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Leaning Right

Good thinking, and rare at this season.


32 posted on 09/28/2014 7:33:00 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Leaning Right; Nextrush

“IMHO, to have a chance at winning, the next Reagan has to be from the GOP, and not from outside of it.”

Maybe.

More likely, I think, will be a sort of “in vitro” insertion into the GOP of a Conservative outsider since establishment types regard Conservatives as outsiders even if they are card-carrying GOP members.

So, think about a registered Republican running as a free-thinking Conservative without the benefit of a big party logo or backing (since this candidate’s not an establishment type), who enters the national political sphere by first defeating the establishment GOP candidate from his own district, then defeating the Democrat contender in the General. This is how Conservatism gets re-injected into a flailing, geriatric, country-club, establishment GOP.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat until effective.

P.S. — Entertain GRAVE suspicion of any present-day establishment GOP types who — surveying the growing success of this plan — have sudden and seemingly miraculous political “conversions” and begin to label themselves “conservative.” Where there be wolves, sheep’s clothing is always available.


33 posted on 09/29/2014 1:40:19 AM PDT by HKMk23 (The Superior Culture will prevail.)
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To: Leaning Right

I am not talking about Conservatives forming a Third Party ... I am talking about finding a way to FORCE the Liberal RINOS out of the Republican Party ... let them try to form a third party ,,,


34 posted on 09/29/2014 4:16:25 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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