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Mark Reckless defects to UKIP from Tories
BBC News ^ | 9/27/2014 | BBC

Posted on 09/27/2014 8:24:35 PM PDT by Nextrush

Tory MP Mark Reckless has said he is leaving his his party to join UKIP, announcing his decision on the eve of the Conservatives' conference.

The Rochester and Strood MP told the UKIP conference he had resigned as an MP, triggering a by-election.....

He is the second Tory MP to defect to UKIP after Clacton MP Douglas Carswell did the same in August.

Mr. Reckless will seek re-election in his constituency for UKIP......

Mr. Reckless said the Conservative leadership was "part of the problem that is holding our country back."

Criticising the three main parties, he said: "People feel ignored, taken for granted, over-taxed, over-regulated, ripped off and lied to."

On immigration, Mr. Reckless said constituents needed to believe that the UK had control over who comes into the country, adding: "At the moment we do not have any sense of that."...............

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alreadypostedtwice; gop; illegals; immigration; markreckless; thirdparty; ukip; unitedkingdom
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The words of this MP from the House of Commons regarding the Conservative Party could just as easily be said about the Republican Party in this country.
1 posted on 09/27/2014 8:24:35 PM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush
Criticising the three main parties, he said: "People feel ignored, taken for granted, over-taxed, over-regulated, ripped off and lied to."

(Emphasis added.) While I would like to see the two-headed Party face some competition in this country, just a cautionary note that we could wind up with the three-headed variety instead, after a while.

2 posted on 09/27/2014 8:41:45 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Nextrush

It sounds like the Brits have decided their establishment parties suck too!


3 posted on 09/27/2014 9:05:11 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: BradyLS
just a cautionary note that we could wind up with the three-headed variety instead, after a while

Actually, I think we'd end up with a one-headed monster. The democrat party would rule, and two insignificant minor parties would split the dwindling conservative vote.

I say "dwindling" because the Democrat party would make sure their advantage becomes permanent: More illegal aliens would be admitted as citizens, and more folks would become addicted to the public dole.

So either we try to reform the GOP from within, or we push for a law that mandates run-off elections if no one gets a majority of votes. Any other strategy would give the liberals power forever.

4 posted on 09/27/2014 9:06:40 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: BradyLS

We need a USIP.


5 posted on 09/27/2014 9:06:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Leaning Right

With two parliamentary by-elections coming in less than two weeks, this kind of rubbish is being dumped on voters in Britain with the Labourites saying a UKIP vote is for the Conservatives and the Conservatives saying a UKIP vote is for Labour.

FEAR IS ALL THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENTS OF THIS WORLD HAVE LEFT....

As Farage and UKIP point out, the major parties are all the same.

Using fear to pretend one party is worse than the other is a joke.


6 posted on 09/27/2014 9:21:48 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: dfwgator

I’m hoping such a party will emerge sooner or later.....


7 posted on 09/27/2014 9:22:51 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Nextrush

Well, looks like the UK just got their first RINO. What’ll they call him when he inevitably starts undermining UKIP, a UNO?


8 posted on 09/27/2014 9:24:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Leaning Right

The GOP does not want the conservative vote


9 posted on 09/27/2014 9:24:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Cameron wanted the conservative vote, and now they’re leaving.
The GOP practically flips American conservatives the bird.
So 2016 should be interesting for the GOP. Chinese interesting.


10 posted on 09/27/2014 9:32:25 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Cameron wanted the conservative vote? He wanted it so bad he moved far to the left in his policies. Howe does that work exactly? How does turning the Torie Party into a copy of the LDP attract conservative votes??

Oh wait he did ‘promise’ a referendum on the EU, which he will likely never deliver.


11 posted on 09/27/2014 9:34:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Nextrush
Using fear to pretend one party is worse than the other is a joke.

I respectfully disagree. As bad as Romney was, Obama is 100 times worse. As bad as a McConnell-led senate would be, the senate now lead by Reid is 100 times worse.

That is not to say that Romney and McConnell are good leaders, or that they are good for the country. They are not. But they are not in the same depraved category as Obama and Reid. They just aren't.

12 posted on 09/27/2014 9:44:56 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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There is not a 100 times difference between Obamacare and Romneycare that came before it in Massachusetts........


13 posted on 09/27/2014 9:57:21 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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There is not a 100 times difference between Obamacare and Romneycare that came before it in Massachusetts........

Very true! And that really is a good argument for a third party. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I just can't see it happening. Too much big money is behind the two established parties.

IMHO, to have a chance at winning, the next Reagan has to be from the GOP, and not from outside of it.

14 posted on 09/27/2014 10:04:37 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: GeronL
The GOP does not want the conservative vote

Correct. They expect it.

15 posted on 09/27/2014 10:26:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: GeronL

As the article illustrates, he’s losing supporters.
My point is, he seemed to want the support of his conservative members, but from his actions didn’t earn it. The GOP not only hasn’t earned conservatives’ support, but from their words and actions, don’t want it.
That is, they want money and votes, but then we’re supposed to go back to talk radio, FR and the other places we go—stay there and shut up, except for our quaint rants between elections.
So, like some Tories we’re saying “That’s spinach, and to hell with it.”


16 posted on 09/27/2014 10:51:46 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Leaning Right

Not when you compare their records. They match up perfectly. So he is not worse at all when you look at the record. They are both unfit to serve anything but hamburgers at a prison baseball game.

Since Obama’s pre president was a mirror of Mitt’s it is a safe assumption in light of Mitt’s multiple contridictory positions, his hiring of illegals, getting caught and hiring them again, his gay commentary, his admission post election he did not want the job as per his own son...

No. He would have been as much a disaster. Perhaps in a different direction, perhaps not. But good people do not do the things he did to get elected (trashing anyone in his way resembling a conservative) and govern justly or competently. They govern for their agenda. And we saw that agenda in his record.

Anything beyond that is speculation.


17 posted on 09/28/2014 5:13:06 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Leaning Right

Who in the GOP pays you for saying such crap? ... The GOP/RNC cannot be reformed - they have to be sidestepped... and done away with eventually ... It is not a matter of leaving the GOP they have left Conservatives ... the Core of the Republican Party and spit upon us... In a few years the current GOP will be history and they become more like the Democrat Party of a few years ago ... The GOP will be replaced - not reformed...


18 posted on 09/28/2014 5:51:26 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: RegulatorCountry

From what I understand the UKIP Party is akin to the Tea Party.


19 posted on 09/28/2014 5:59:58 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Leaning Right

The timing of Holder’s resignation indicates that Obama wants to be sure that he has time for a Democratic lame duck Senate to confirm his puppet replacement as Attorney General.

With so much dirty laundry stacked up in the closets of the Justice Department, Obama didn’t dare let in an Attorney General who is not a total sycophant.

Were he forced to negotiate with Senate Republicans in order to get confirmation, he might have to accept an honest Attorney General who would clean house and bring all the laundry out in public.

And one that would be an active agent in creating Obama’s one party vision.

Were Holder to resign after the Republicans control the confirmation process, the full dimensions of Obama’s plan for a one-party nation would be exposed.

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20 posted on 09/28/2014 6:06:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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