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Putting guns in schools is reason to recoil
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 24 sept 2014 | Tony Norman

Posted on 09/24/2014 5:09:18 AM PDT by rellimpank

America has always been awash in bad ideas. The Founding Fathers spoke a good game about liberty but allowed America to become a slave republic, because they didn't want to alienate the Southern farmers and merchants who helped bankroll and fight the war for independence against the British.

The Southern states wanted access to American liberty based on skin color. They got their wish for disproportionate representation in the early republic with the three-fifths clause enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. Tolerance of slavery was not only a bad idea, it has had disastrous consequences for America ever since.

Right up there in the annals of bad ideas were the notions that women didn't really need access to the ballot box, that genocide and forced relocation of Native Americans was "progress" and that "corporations are people, too" - an idea that got traction after the Civil War.

Most people who aren't brainwashed or willfully ignorant know this about our nation's history and are thoroughly mortified by it. We look back at bad ideas that were once taken as gospel and shake our heads in bewilderment.

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1 posted on 09/24/2014 5:09:19 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Tony you can’t even think straight, bud.


2 posted on 09/24/2014 5:10:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—the usual from the J-S—


3 posted on 09/24/2014 5:10:22 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

Typical hoplophobic attitude.

“Guns bad! Baaahh! Bleat! Guns bad!”


4 posted on 09/24/2014 5:10:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rellimpank

It seems to me the gate was thrown open long ago when police set up shop in schools. They have guns. Why isnt that a problem? Is it b/c theyre govt agents?


5 posted on 09/24/2014 5:13:46 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: rellimpank

Right. The slave owners “got their wish” for disproportionate representation based on skin color. Cause they didn’t want to have more seats in Congress. They fought to count their slaves as less, so that non-slave states would have more representatives.

Idiot.


6 posted on 09/24/2014 5:14:31 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: rellimpank
The Founding Fathers spoke a good game about liberty but allowed America to become a slave republic

The choice was not between a slave republic and a free republic, it was between a slave republic and no republic.

They got their wish for disproportionate representation in the early republic with the three-fifths clause enshrined in the U.S. Constitution.

This clause was a restriction on slaver power. The slavers wanted slaves counted at 1:1 for purposes of representation.

women didn't really need access to the ballot box

AFAIK, absolutely nobody seriously proposed giving women the vote at the founding.

7 posted on 09/24/2014 5:14:43 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: rellimpank

The revisionist history is strong with this one.

This is public schooling in action here, folks. Devoid of facts, based purely on emotion and rhetoric.


8 posted on 09/24/2014 5:18:55 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: 556x45

I hate having the coppers in schools.


9 posted on 09/24/2014 5:19:37 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rellimpank

I’ll bet the adults at Newtown who heroically used their bodies to shield their students from Adam Lanza, would have preferred to have had a gun if they could just have a do-over.


10 posted on 09/24/2014 5:20:25 AM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: rellimpank

this one is for the liberals (worldwide) ... Guns ended slavery ... Guns will end criminals!


11 posted on 09/24/2014 5:20:33 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: rellimpank
Wow. That guy calls himself a professional writer? Ohhhkaaaay, sure. He's all over the map mixing in contemporary liberal talking points with absolutely nothing to back them up. Typical of liberals, they make unfounded assertions and move on changing the subject. They just assume they're right.

I wonder if he ever even considered the possibility that a hundred years from now we'll look back at the notion of defenseless gun-free zones and forced disarming of our citizens and wonder "what were they thinking, were they mentally ill?" Nah. Of course not. He is obviously so sure of his own view I will bet you good money he has never considered other viewpoints, never tried to build an argument in support of them - just to see if they have merit. Nope, he's been told what to think by his elite betters, and he's following along like a good little useful idiot.

12 posted on 09/24/2014 5:22:01 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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bad ideas were the notions that women didn't really need access to the ballot box

the point of not having women vote...was that by and large they vote for welfare, democRATS and Baraq Obama. It is evident that not having women vote was clear thinking on the part of the founders.

13 posted on 09/24/2014 5:25:15 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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Where are they going to find 5-6 members of the NEA who are mentally stable enough to be around firearms? ...per school.

Isn’t that his argument?


14 posted on 09/24/2014 5:29:50 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: rellimpank

This idiot actually believes that having a government which agrees not to infringe on our right to self defense is just as bad as having a government which allows slavery.

He fails to recognize that having a government which fails to agree not to infringe on our right to self defense is the same as having a government which allows slavery.

Or, as rellimpank succinctly put it:

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15 posted on 09/24/2014 5:30:42 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: rellimpank

“Right up there in the annals of bad ideas were the notions that women didn’t really need access to the ballot box, that genocide and forced relocation of Native Americans was “progress” and that “corporations are people, too” - an idea that got traction after the Civil War.”

The author neglects to include abortion on demand.


16 posted on 09/24/2014 5:30:47 AM PDT by muglywump (Seven days without laughter makes one weak.)
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To: rellimpank; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Millwaukee Journal Sentinel doesn’t like the idea of guns in schools.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


17 posted on 09/24/2014 5:32:03 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rellimpank

Ignore the hundreds of thousands who fell while freeing the slaves...


18 posted on 09/24/2014 5:36:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: rellimpank

The author, with eyes looking in divergent directions, “Only bad guys should be able to enter a school unoppposed with a gun!”


19 posted on 09/24/2014 5:37:23 AM PDT by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: yldstrk

I have always thought... these ‘writers’ graduate with a liberal arts degree straight out of Berkeley. They sit and think of the most ridiculous idea out of the clear blue, then somehow mix enough words together that their outlandish, impossible, far left idiocy somehow makes sense to those that will believe anything they read.

Where do they get this stuff? Some of them are on some serious drugs to come up with this stuff.


20 posted on 09/24/2014 5:40:50 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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