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The Third Rail of Domestic Violence
Townhall.com ^ | September 12, 2014 | Mark Davis

Posted on 09/12/2014 5:49:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/12/2014 5:49:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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“But there is one vital element of the domestic violence dialogue that ignites torrents of unwarranted disapproval: an examination of the dynamic of the women who stay with, and even defend, their attackers.”

Awww, you know I thought the author was actually going to broach the taboo subject of female initiators of domestic violence, since it was Rice who got hit first.


2 posted on 09/12/2014 6:16:20 AM PDT by Boogieman
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This whole thing is so cut and dried... that I don’t understand how the media or anyone at all can be confused about what happened.

A man struck an woman and in this case, struck her hard enough to render her unconscious.

The severity of the blow is incidental. That there is ANY difference of opinion as to what this IS, I don’t GET.

HE broke the law. Whether or not she cares... he DID break the law!!


3 posted on 09/12/2014 6:17:57 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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He did indeed, besides he is a jerk, and that is mildly said


4 posted on 09/12/2014 6:36:20 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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Many of the fans are supporting Ray Rice, after the video was released. This just shows how far gone much of this country is.


5 posted on 09/12/2014 6:39:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SMARTY; Boogieman; Kaslin

“HE broke the law. Whether or not she cares... he DID break the law!!

If what Boogieman asserted above is correct, and I have no idea if it is, didn’t she “break the law” first?


6 posted on 09/12/2014 6:42:25 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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Wait, there is over a billion people who think it is fine to beat your wife or GF or sister, especially after the ‘look’, you know, Muslims.


7 posted on 09/12/2014 8:02:24 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: babygene

Also, he appeared to hit her as she was charging at him from across the elevator to hit him again. So, in that case, he didn’t “break the law”, if he was defending himself. He may well have used a bit of excessive force to defend himself, but that’s a world of difference from domestic abuse.


8 posted on 09/12/2014 8:03:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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And sometimes “initiating” is enough psychological abuse that a physical response is the only perceived option.


9 posted on 09/12/2014 8:10:06 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Solve problems, don't bitch about them.)
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Watch enough episodes of Jerry Springer and you’ll inevitably see women behaving abusively towards men who are merely assumed to have cheated or have actually cheated on their significant others. While some of it may be just an act, some of it is authentic. Whether the cheating happened or not, it’s not enough for a woman or anyone else to think that it’s “okay” to physically harm a man but it happens all of the time! I am in no way condoning violence against women but I most definitely am pointing out that there is a greater scope of domestic violence in America than what the media makes us aware of.


10 posted on 09/12/2014 8:23:09 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: stubernx98

“Wait, there is over a billion people who think it is fine to beat your wife or GF or sister, especially after the ‘look’, you know, Muslims.”

Well, the last time I “hit” another person was when I was in 5th grade. Aggressive behavior of that sort is always wrong.

However it has nothing to do with the sex of the person. Probably more women are abusive of men than the other way around.

For a physically challenged person it is not only wrong, it’s also stupid.


11 posted on 09/12/2014 8:23:34 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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Rap music is full of references to laying the smack down on your woman.
So....racist.


12 posted on 09/12/2014 8:27:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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Still trying to figure out the difference here with Mike Brown.

Except Brown slugged a cop. Who was armed.


13 posted on 09/12/2014 9:20:36 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Boogieman
If you really want to ignite a torrent of disapproval, cite the mass of research (all serious population research, actually) that reveals women at least as likely and often more likely, to be the perpetrators of violence.

The automatic identification of the "male" as perp is a form of bigotry which has no basis in reality. Yet, much like man made global warming, it is an article of faith that resists all rationality and refuses to die.

14 posted on 09/12/2014 10:48:37 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Yes, but what may be worse is the reaction when you inform people of those facts. Often, they seem to think that domestic violence by women “doesn’t count” because they are smaller or weaker than men. So, men are just expected to “take it like a man” if a woman decides to beat on him.

Now, if you flipped that around and said “Well women have a higher tolerance for pain (as the feminists love to tell us), so they should just ‘take it like a woman’”, well we can all imagine the reaction that would cause.


15 posted on 09/12/2014 11:44:07 AM PDT by Boogieman
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"...since it was Rice who got hit first."

How do you know that? Do we have tape of them the entire night?

16 posted on 09/12/2014 1:27:46 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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Agreed. This country is in a death spiral of decaying morality.


17 posted on 09/12/2014 1:28:44 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Boogieman

The next time my dachshund snaps at me, I’m gonna knock it out! I’m just defending myself.


18 posted on 09/12/2014 1:32:02 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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Well, we have video of them approaching the elevator and what happened in the elevator. Before that, we have witnesses in the public bar they were at. I imagine if Rice was beating his wife in the bar, someone might have noticed and reported that.


19 posted on 09/13/2014 2:21:48 PM PDT by Boogieman
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If you want to let some smack you around and not do anything, that’s your prerogative, but it doesn’t remove the right of anyone to defend themselves.


20 posted on 09/13/2014 2:22:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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