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Lebanese Christians on border arming themselves
AP ^ | 9/5/2014

Posted on 09/05/2014 6:30:41 PM PDT by markomalley

Every day around sunset, dozens of residents of this small Lebanese Christian village on the border carry their automatic rifles and deploy on surrounding hills, taking up positions and laying ambushes in case Muslim extremists from neighboring Syria attack.
"We all know that if they come, they will slit our throats for no reason," said one villager as he drove through the streets of Qaa, an assault rifle resting next to him.
For months, Lebanese Christians have watched with dread as other Christians flee Islamic extremists in Syria and Iraq, fearing their turn will come next. Fears multiplied after militants from Syria overran a border town last month, clashing with security forces for days and killing and kidnapping Lebanese soldiers and policemen.
Now, for the first time since the Lebanese civil war ended in 1990, Lebanese Christians are rearming and setting up self-defense units to protect themselves, an indication of the growing anxiety over the expanding reach of radical Islamic groups.
Across the Middle East, Christian communities as old as the religion itself feel their very survival is now at stake, threatened by militants of the Islamic State group rampaging across Iraq and Syria.

(Excerpt) Read more at sj-r.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bhomiddleeast; christianpersecution; lebanesechristians; lebanon; muslimworld; rop

1 posted on 09/05/2014 6:30:41 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

This, in the year 2014. Unbelievable.


2 posted on 09/05/2014 6:32:32 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: markomalley

Perhaps they should move a few miles south, and be Israel’s first line of defense. At least Israel would be on their side.


3 posted on 09/05/2014 6:37:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: markomalley

Is this what bam bam means by “manage”?


4 posted on 09/05/2014 6:38:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: markomalley

Why did they wait so long?


5 posted on 09/05/2014 6:38:08 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: markomalley

The only people we should arm in the Middle East is Christians.

Let the ragheads kill each other off.


6 posted on 09/05/2014 6:38:44 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: markomalley

ISIS would do well to remember the Lebanese Civil War. Christians there don’t hesitate to shoot


7 posted on 09/05/2014 6:42:02 PM PDT by Viennacon (ILLEGALS ARE VIRAL WEAPONS!!)
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To: DoughtyOne

There is a long history to that, with the “South Lebanese Army”, a predominantly Christian force who acted as Israel’s proxies during the occupation (1982-1999). They had to face the music when Israel left. Some left Lebanon, others made an accomodation with the new regime, as Hezbollah judged it wise to realise that “time past is time forgotten.”

There is still a significant Christian population in south Lebanon. Both they and the Shia majority in that area are alarmed (if not terrified) by the savage militias fanning out of Syria.

However the leading Maronite politicians in Lebanon have committed themselves to “regime change” in Syria, and if you look at their press, they are always trying to imagine that the atrocities in Syria are merely the work of a few extremists. I predict this fantasy will not last, and they will change that policy. They have to.


8 posted on 09/05/2014 6:58:07 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: BlackVeil

I don’t discount your history, because there is truth in it. None the less, I have to come to terms with Hezbollah ascendance, and past skirmishes with Israel in the midst of Southern Lebanon dynamics.

The South of Lebanon was armed to the teeth against Israel. That took place, as people in Lebanon turned a blind eye.

I am continually amazed at the groups of Islamic adherents who feign apprehension regarding the things other Islamicists do.

Beheadings are not uncommon. The stoning of women who are raped is not uncommon. None the less these types of reports continue to come out of the Middle-East, as if there are good and bad sides of Islam.

Where are the condemnations of beheading, and what are those condemnations based on? The members of Islam have signed on to that sort of thing for hundreds of years.

Now we’re supposed to believe that some don’t approve? What is that based on?

These people are either confused themselves, or confused about the fact that the West knows them for exactly who they are.

I wish this weren’t true, but I am unable to judge this it isn’t.


9 posted on 09/05/2014 7:26:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: DoughtyOne
These people are either confused themselves, or confused about the fact that the West knows them for exactly who they are.

But if the West does know them for what they are, then why is there this weird policy of regime change, in places like Libya and Syria, where it is handing power to the head-choppers? It is inexplicable.

In Iraq too - dare one say it - was Sadaam Hussein any worse than what has come after him? Was he wrong to be a "tyrant"? Most of those killed in his various crack downs were Islamic extremists of one sort or another. We put in a no fly zone, so that he could not bomb militias in northern Iraq. Now that he is gone, we ourselves have to go to all the trouble of bombing militias in northern Iraq.

There must be some plan to all this, but I cannot see it.

10 posted on 09/05/2014 7:52:40 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: DoughtyOne

It is their home... Should I have to move from Pennsy because the Libs are at our heels?

Screw that! Fight! In place! Now! And then advance!

F these bastards!


11 posted on 09/05/2014 8:12:22 PM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: BlackVeil
These people are either confused themselves, or confused about the fact that the West knows them for exactly who they are.

But if the West does know them for what they are, then why is there this weird policy of regime change, in places like Libya and Syria, where it is handing power to the head-choppers? It is inexplicable.

You and I have the same view as it relates to Libya and Syria.  In fact, I'd go farther and state it was incredibly short sighted to change the regimes in Libya and Syria.  We had known people, who had modified their atctions in recent decades.

McCain and Obama were clueless to this dynamic.


In Iraq too - dare one say it - was Sadaam Hussein any worse than what has come after him? Was he wrong to be a "tyrant"? Most of those killed in his various crack downs were Islamic extremists of one sort or another.

Here I am going to have to disagree.  Hussien's sons would target the husbands of women they wanted to play around with.  These were crusty guys beyond the norm.  Hussien was a paranoid.  He would kill people just to prevent problems, that weren't there.

Look, is there value in taking out the leadership of a man who has sworn his hatred of the U.S., and his intent to do anything he could to take it down?  I think there is.  It sends a message ot other problem players in the region.  When Hussein was brought down, Khadaffy voluntarily surrendered his nuclear weapons research.  That's not a bad residual out come IMO.  It proves the point I'm trying to make.


We put in a no fly zone, so that he could not bomb militias in northern Iraq. Now that he is gone, we ourselves have to go to all the trouble of bombing militias in northern Iraq.

Yes, but in all honestly those militias were not causing problems before ISIS.  Now they are.  Remember, we were trying to prevent attacks on the Kurds.  And in reality, the Kurds are still acting in conjunction with us.

There must be some plan to all this, but I cannot see it.

Well, I admit it is murkey at times.  I still belive there is a plan and it has been reasoned for the most part.  Is it perfect?  No.  Look Bush was right about one thing.  This isn't going away soon.  We will have to be diligent for a long time.  That's life, when it comes to the Middle-East.

In the old days, we would have had the whole region at our throats if we ventured into the region.  Today, many nations welcome our intervention.  That is progress.  It isn't perfection.

12 posted on 09/05/2014 8:13:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: WomBom

No, and living in Southern California, your argument has special meaning for me.

None the less, folks aren’t yet shooting Kalashnikov level weapons, mortars, and missiles into my home town either.


13 posted on 09/05/2014 8:25:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: markomalley

Armed civilians defending their homes and families.

We call that a “militia” if I’m not mistaken.

We had better remember the value and power of a militia here in the United States ... the sooner the better.


14 posted on 09/05/2014 9:18:12 PM PDT by DNME (This is the government our Founders warned us about.)
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To: BlackVeil
In Iraq too - dare one say it - was Sadaam Hussein any worse than what has come after him?

Depends on who you are. From the standpoint of the average Iraqi Shiite or Kurd, Saddam was worse. The average Sunni did better under Saddam. From the average American's standpoint, we are better off with Saddam gone. Iraq won't be threatening the gulf states any time soon, and it won't be getting nukes. What Bush did wrong was stay in Iraq. We should have gone with the Afghan/Libyan model. Plink government forces until the opposition wins. Instead, we used the Iraq model in Afghanistan, and have now lost 8K men in both theaters.

15 posted on 09/05/2014 9:53:27 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: markomalley

bookmark


16 posted on 09/05/2014 10:12:14 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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