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1 posted on 08/20/2014 1:24:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Stossel is a lib fool.

Say what you will about the militarization of local LEO’s, but one thing is clear.

The Ferguson PD (and St. Louis County) along with their tanks, tear gas and military gear did more to curtail the rioting and looting than did the State Troopers and the National Guard.

Only AFTER Captain Ron Johnson took over (and begn protesting with them people) did things get WORSE - not better.


2 posted on 08/20/2014 1:30:24 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: nickcarraway
That may well mean he was violent and dangerous, but even violent people should be brought to trial, not gunned down.

Completely idiotic.

3 posted on 08/20/2014 1:32:23 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: nickcarraway

Stossel proving himself a foolish out of touch celebrity.


4 posted on 08/20/2014 1:32:27 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: nickcarraway
Although it was government, police and government-supplied military equipment that provoked the conflict (plus property-rights-violating looters)

Glad he added that little addendum.

The problem with "militarizing" the police is when you have SWAT going through the door when a knock on the door would have sufficed. We do see this all too often.

But in the face of rioters and looters, a more muscular force is appropriate. Especially if you have any hope of stopping them from burning some poor guy's Mini-Mart to the ground.

I don't know why that distinction is so difficult. Apparently the cops have trouble getting the difference and so maybe does Stossel. SWAT to serve papers or gun down grandma, bad. Overwhelming force to stop looters and rioters, different story.

Emptying your gun into a 300 lb man trying to do you bodily harm, messy but human.

8 posted on 08/20/2014 1:35:12 PM PDT by marron
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So if its militariazation that’s at fault for the rioting—

then what was at fault for the riots in the 60s 70s 80s and 90s???

I’m concerned about militraization of any and all government agencies

But to say ferguson was caused by it is f-ing stupid.


13 posted on 08/20/2014 1:39:27 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (If you're on the same side of Ferguson as Al and Jesse, then you F-ed up somewhere. Rethink it dummy)
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militarization— the latest scapegoat for black violent criminal behavior

(previous scapegoats-
slavery,
racism,
white devils,
profiling,
not enough spending...)


18 posted on 08/20/2014 1:44:33 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (If you're on the same side of Ferguson as Al and Jesse, then you F-ed up somewhere. Rethink it dummy)
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When government becomes half of the nation’s GDP,
damm right government is too big, too intrusive, and
a huge anchor around the feet of hard working, productive,
small business types.

If 10% is OK with the church, it should be enough for the government.


19 posted on 08/20/2014 1:44:44 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: nickcarraway

Stossel is not very bright nor is he at all street savvy. But he is right that cops have become too militarized. The answer to out of control riots is the national guard. The answer to 6’ 4” 300 pound criminals who bash your orbit in and then bull rush you is enough rounds to put him down on his face.

There is a difference between policing and putting down looting, rioting and mass criminality and for the latter the national guard is a much better solution because when the rioting is done the police still have to do police work.


20 posted on 08/20/2014 1:44:45 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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The police were and are right in this case. The critics are commies and losers. Every freaking one of them.


21 posted on 08/20/2014 1:45:20 PM PDT by samtheman
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Ferguson events have shown Libertarians that it is always more likely people will work together to pillage than work together to improve their lives.

But, except for this idiot apparently, most already were aware of that. Events showed, also, that strict limits on police perversely require they have much ‘firepower’; and light limits allow them to function with less.


38 posted on 08/20/2014 2:46:14 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: nickcarraway
That may well mean he was violent and dangerous, but even violent people should be brought to trial, not gunned down.

Then you go and personally get them with your non-violent means if you can Stossel.

Moron.
41 posted on 08/20/2014 3:21:56 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nickcarraway
It's a cryin' damn shame that Stossel deigns to "represent" libertarian positions.

Most libertarians are not as stupid as he is. Nor as liberal.

But I repeat myself.

44 posted on 08/20/2014 4:11:30 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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46 posted on 08/20/2014 4:49:12 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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