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Lobbyists quietly advise GOP on gay marriage shift
The Hill ^ | 7/30/2104 | Megan R. Wilson

Posted on 07/30/2014 8:30:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Republicans on K street are helping members of their party shift their stance on gay rights issues.

Kathryn Lehman, a top GOP lobbyist and partner at Holland and Knight carries a list of 40 to 50 Republican offices in the House and Senate she visits on behalf of Freedom to Marry, a group that backs same-sex marriage.

"The issue is losing its toxicity from a Republican perspective," she said, mentioning that the list was a fraction of that size when she first took on Freedom to Marry as a client in 2011.

Lehman... helped to write the Defense of Marriage Act while working on Capitol Hill...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 113th; congress; gop; gop4obama; gop4romneyagenda; gop4romneycare; gop4romneymarriage; homosexualagenda; jokingonromneyin2016; lolromneyin2016; moralabsolutes; romneyin2016
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To: TexasCajun

After watching the left and seeing that old DU thread about how straight men won’t date tranny “women” I bet their next big thing will be trying to shame and call “hate” on those who refuse to date them.


61 posted on 07/30/2014 9:41:06 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great caption!

Fits perfectly!


62 posted on 07/30/2014 9:43:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; ansel12; Responsibility2nd
A truce can be reached with libertarians: Conservatives can say they will no longer support an unending war position, and libertarians can drop their attacks on conservatives over social issues. One for one.

This will never work.

The abyss between conservatives and libertarians is far greater than many believe. The truth is that libertarians are far more likely to form an alliance with the left than they are with conservatives.

The first reality is that there WILL be another war eventually that has to be fought. The second is that libertarians will never agree to the fact that, for conservatives, the abolition of abortion and sanctity of traditional marriage are non-negotiable.

63 posted on 07/30/2014 9:43:48 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“The issue is losing its toxicity from a Republican perspective,” she said

Not from a voter perspective. How can I trust a person that gives in to perversion to represent me in my government?


64 posted on 07/30/2014 9:52:38 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Needless to say, not all Republicans think this is a big issue, at least not when compared with the immediate, existential issues of the day.


65 posted on 07/30/2014 9:52:41 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
At this point, I don't care about the social issues. We have more pressing issues, jobs, taxes, terrorism, Obamacare, then whether Steve is marrying Adam.

When we get those issues finished, let's worry about stupid things.

66 posted on 07/30/2014 9:53:32 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As is same-sex sodomy...


67 posted on 07/30/2014 9:54:59 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: wagglebee

I have stated many times for the record that I would sooner support a GOP-e RINO like Christie, Jeb or Rubio than I would a lib like Paul or Gary Johnson.

Fortunately, there are better (much) options like Cruz, Jindal and Perry.


68 posted on 07/30/2014 9:55:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

IBTZ.


69 posted on 07/30/2014 9:55:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It’s amazing how supposedly intelligent people still do not GET that it the turning of our backs on God and His ways that caused our downfall.

When will they wake up to reality?


70 posted on 07/30/2014 9:56:10 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The GOP wobbly on fag-marriage, and I can guarantee that the Party will never see another vote from me, big office or small. Ditto for at least a dozen of my family members, all who have been reliable Republican voters for decades.

Additionally, I’d corral all my grassroots/footwork/funding energies towards the total destruction of the GOP (and hopefully the birth of a new, genuinely “conservative” party).


71 posted on 07/30/2014 9:57:32 AM PDT by greene66
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To: ansel12
"Within the GOP, the rinos and libertarians are realizing that they are really elements of the same wing and have a common enemy".

To suggest the RINO and libertarian wings of the party are either colluding or two sides of the same coin is not accurate.

The SPLIT within the GOP is more like a "shatter". There are FAR more factions than Traditional, libertarian and RINO.

Oh, and RINO and libertarian HATE EACH OTHER. And libertarians have genuine affection and hope for common cause with Traditionalists.

Perhaps centered around the 10th Amendment.

72 posted on 07/30/2014 9:59:13 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ExCTCitizen; Laissez-faire capitalist; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; ...
At this point, I don't care about the social issues.

Conservatives have been hearing this from the libertarians and GOPe FOREVER, the reality is that they always have something that's "more important."

We have more pressing issues, jobs, taxes, terrorism, Obamacare, then whether Steve is marrying Adam.

Conservatives realize that these are actually nothing more than different facets of THE SAME ISSUE.

When we get those issues finished, let's worry about stupid things.

So, 6000 year old institution of marriage is a "stupid thing"?

73 posted on 07/30/2014 10:11:36 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mariner
To suggest the RINO and libertarian wings of the party are either colluding or two sides of the same coin is not accurate.

What I said is accurate, ""Within the GOP, the rinos and libertarians are realizing that they are really elements of the same wing and have a common enemy."" and we see that as what used to be rinos, discover that they are libertarians on social issues, Rand Paul is an example of the new model of rino/libertarian, or libertarian/rino awakening to the fact that they have a lot in common, and have conservatism as their shared enemy.

74 posted on 07/30/2014 10:14:47 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

support fags and illegals... and watch your base not show up

smart move


75 posted on 07/30/2014 10:15:38 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What was unfortunate was you made it look like I had said the things you were lashing out at.

If you were agreeing with my post, it came off as the opposite.


76 posted on 07/30/2014 10:17:15 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: wagglebee
At this point, I don't care about the social issues.

Everything is a social issue

77 posted on 07/30/2014 10:23:38 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: wagglebee

A basic bedrock of civilization is treated as if it somehow not important any more. Insanity rules the day.


78 posted on 07/30/2014 10:24:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: wagglebee
The abyss between conservatives and libertarians is far greater than many believe. The truth is that libertarians are far more likely to form an alliance with the left than they are with conservatives.

The first reality is that there WILL be another war eventually that has to be fought. The second is that libertarians will never agree to the fact that, for conservatives, the abolition of abortion and sanctity of traditional marriage are non-negotiable.

*******************************

Agreed.

79 posted on 07/30/2014 10:26:14 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
If we get some Muslim loving politicians, we might not have to worry about marriage. I'm worrying more about the loss of freedoms by LIBERALS.

IMO smaller government means that the government should NOT be in the homes of citizens.

80 posted on 07/30/2014 10:29:27 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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