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Lobbyists quietly advise GOP on gay marriage shift
The Hill ^ | 7/30/2104 | Megan R. Wilson

Posted on 07/30/2014 8:30:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Republicans on K street are helping members of their party shift their stance on gay rights issues.

Kathryn Lehman, a top GOP lobbyist and partner at Holland and Knight carries a list of 40 to 50 Republican offices in the House and Senate she visits on behalf of Freedom to Marry, a group that backs same-sex marriage.

"The issue is losing its toxicity from a Republican perspective," she said, mentioning that the list was a fraction of that size when she first took on Freedom to Marry as a client in 2011.

Lehman... helped to write the Defense of Marriage Act while working on Capitol Hill...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 113th; congress; gop; gop4obama; gop4romneyagenda; gop4romneycare; gop4romneymarriage; homosexualagenda; jokingonromneyin2016; lolromneyin2016; moralabsolutes; romneyin2016
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I wonder how many Republicans (after working as a hill staffer, or after being voted into office), would say "I support traditional marriage," and then when working as a lobbyist would switch sides in a millisecond?

This is what you get: GOP candidates run on traditional issues, and then bait and switch and spend most of their time defending banker-bailouts, defending borrow-and-spend and increasing the deficit, won't reach out to Tea Partiers and so on.

Or you get staffers who "support" something, and then switch sides later...

1 posted on 07/30/2014 8:30:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Attacking the messenger (The Hill or the columnist who wrote the piece) won’t do away with the fact that this is sadly taking place within the GOP.

Deal with the issue at hand...


2 posted on 07/30/2014 8:32:48 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The GOP is dead to me anyway. What with amnesty and colluding with democrats in Mississippi, so they wanna endorse faggotry now?

Go. Right. Ahead.


3 posted on 07/30/2014 8:33:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I smell another sellout.

If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything. The RINO establishment has long since stopped standing for something.


4 posted on 07/30/2014 8:33:44 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Because thats exactly what we need, two DNC’s.


5 posted on 07/30/2014 8:34:44 AM PDT by marron
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I wonder if those same lobbyists would have much impact on God if they provided Him with this advice?

He probably would not react in the same fashion as your average Congressman:

"What's in it for me?"

6 posted on 07/30/2014 8:35:49 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The headline says it all. Congress critters get there marching orders from lobbiest not the people who elected them to office.

Is this what we have come to Wormtooth whispering in our leader’s ear?


7 posted on 07/30/2014 8:35:53 AM PDT by WilliamRobert (We are doomed if good men stand by and do nothing.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If “any” two people can marry, what is the legal reasoning behind preventing three, or siblings from marrying?

I can support a legal recognition (like a civil union) for gays, but not full-fledged marriage.

Men and women are not the same, nor are their partnerships.


8 posted on 07/30/2014 8:37:16 AM PDT by RangerM
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

9 posted on 07/30/2014 8:37:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The issue is losing its toxicity from a Republican perspective....

Really? Could have fooled me.

10 posted on 07/30/2014 8:37:59 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: marron

fine with me. It’ll split the rat vote and allowed a conservative party to win.


11 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:05 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: marron
Because thats exactly what we need, two DNC’s.

GOP could stand for Government Oabma’s Party.

12 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:09 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Westbrook; All

As long as you have Republicans clamoring for Super Pac money, you will get RINO-approved Republicans.

Then again, with or without Super Pacs: Rove, Krauthammer, O’Reilly, etc (whether or not they do or don’t support same-sex marriage) surely they will lead the GOP to the promised land!!!


13 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:19 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The libertarians are at war with conservatism, as is the GOPe, and of course the democrats and the left.

Within the GOP, the rinos and libertarians are realizing that they are really elements of the same wing and have a common enemy.


14 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:26 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

So if the republicans decide to cave in to the perversions of less than 2% of the population, solely to get cash and favors from K street, to the detriment of the people who voted for them and put them into office, what does that say about those republicans who are turned by it?


15 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:41 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The GOPe is as amoral as the LibTards. I can’t say I am surprised, but I sure am disgusted.


16 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:44 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Most of the voting public simply does not care. Otherwise, the blatant hypocrisy of all this would overwhelm them.


17 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:52 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Westbrook

Yesterday Glenn Beck was preaching conservatives need to understand the left and consider compromise.

Has the GOP ever done anything EXCEPT compromise?


18 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:52 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Lobbyists quietly advise GOP on gay marriage shift

There is a spelling error in the headline. The last word has an "f" that shouldn't be there.

19 posted on 07/30/2014 8:39:03 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (When using "he" or "him" to refer to Barack Obama, is it still okay to use the lower case "h"?)
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To: RangerM

Liberals are already pressing for polyamorous marriage.


20 posted on 07/30/2014 8:39:48 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ve been asking this question a lot lately: What is the GOP giving conservatives to vote for in November?


21 posted on 07/30/2014 8:40:41 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

VERY VERY well said. Far too often facts we don’t like are dismissed by attacking the source. When I was Prosecuting, we saw a lot of facts from sources we loathed, but that didn’t make them any less facts. A lot of successful prosecutions came via the jailhouse snitch.

Facts are facts are facts are facts. Ignore them at your peril.


22 posted on 07/30/2014 8:40:48 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Lehman... helped to write the Defense of Marriage Act while working on Capitol Hill...

Public education.

23 posted on 07/30/2014 8:41:37 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: All

Here in Minnesota, we’re working hard to oust a GOP member of the Legislature who voted for gay marriage.

She voted for it - after previously saying she supported one man-one woman marriages. Her name is Jenifer Loon and she represents a strong GOP district in the southwest suburbs of Minneapolis. The winner of this primary will more than likely be elected easily in November.

The candidate I’m backing is Sheila Kihne. Here is her website:

http://www.sheilakihne.com/

The primary is August 12th. If you could see your way to sending her some money, it would be much appreciated.

Her opponent has taken a lot of money from out of state pro-gay marriage Democrats


24 posted on 07/30/2014 8:43:11 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Arm_Bears

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They rely on the “I’ll hold my nose and vote” crowd. It’s how they’ve stayed in power all these years. Sadly, that is one big crowd.


25 posted on 07/30/2014 8:44:26 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court created an unwinnable situation for those that believe marriage is marriage. They adopted the far left language in their decision and opened the flood gates. If there had been a national backlash, we could still have an upperhand on the issue, but there was not. Even a lot of solid Republicans I know have basically dropped any major opposition. There does need to be a shift on this issue, even if not an outright cave. Simply saying ‘I believe in traditional marriage’ is an ineffective position. A candidate needs to provide something more substantive, even if they still hold the same views. Not the equivalent of ‘I’m personally pro-life, but not for making it illegal.’ It needs to be a discussion point...’I believe marriage is marriage, but I believe we do need to look at state laws to see how same sex couples are affected by the legal and economic sides of our current laws.” Essentially, adopt a civil-union option without calling it that.


26 posted on 07/30/2014 8:45:15 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

They lost me years ago. They can shift all they want.

Anyone who will shift their stance so fluidly in the pursuit of support isn’t worth supporting.

My new tagline.


27 posted on 07/30/2014 8:48:07 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Anyone who will shift their stance so fluidly in the pursuit of support isn't worth supporting.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
DC is full of queers. That is they way it is. People weasel in and run various parts of lobbying and advising .gov.

Just look at how many people are homosexual who work in .gov and media. If you want to 'change' the US, they have a method to their plans.

28 posted on 07/30/2014 8:49:16 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: MplsSteve

I might as well send her money, it won’t do me any good in my home state of Massachusetts.


29 posted on 07/30/2014 8:49:33 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Anyone who will shift their stance so fluidly in the pursuit of support isn't worth supporting.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; JesusBmyGod; buffyt; rom; persistence48; Hanna548; DvdMom; ...

There are but two issues that keep me from officially lobbying against the Republican party as a viable way to help curb the leftist control of this country.

Abortion
&
The homosexual agenda of “Same Sex Marriage”

If they change the party platform to accommodate either one of these issues, and it doesn’t matter if they are right on the other issues, because they would be joining the left in their fight against God Himself.

Change on these issues and I will fight against the Republican party as vehemently as I do against the Democrat party, because in my mind they will in essence have removed the last reason they are not the Democrat party.

I am a Christian, and while I do stumbles and sin sin like all men, I do not justify my sine by claiming God supports evil.

Joining the left in supporting either of these issues, is tantamount to telling God that He is wrong.


30 posted on 07/30/2014 8:49:46 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Why don't the Homosexuals just marry a Pre-Op Transexual, problem solved.

Glad to have helped. hehe

31 posted on 07/30/2014 8:51:03 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: OneVike

Those are primary issues because they both are an attack on human life and a direct affront to God (which is the intent, actually).


32 posted on 07/30/2014 8:51:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The GOP is supposed to be an alternative to the liberal DemcoRat Party, but they adopt more of the Rat platform all the time.


33 posted on 07/30/2014 8:54:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
The last word has an "f" that shouldn't be there.

Good call!

34 posted on 07/30/2014 8:54:24 AM PDT by shove_it (Directive 10-289 lives)
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To: ilgipper; Laissez-faire capitalist
They adopted the far left language in their decision and opened the flood gates.

I agree that once you let the Left define the issue you have already lost.

There is no such thing as "gay marriage". Never was, never will be. Pass all the laws you want, it changes the underlying reality not one whit.

Because, as you say, marriage is marriage. Moral or natural law pre-exists civil law. If written law is out of line with natural law, it isn't law. People have lost touch with that, and good luck finding anyone, Repubs included, who is prepared to explain it to them.

35 posted on 07/30/2014 8:54:51 AM PDT by marron
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They are just quietly waiting for it to become fait accompli.
36 posted on 07/30/2014 8:55:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MrB

Exactly. Stop fighting those issues, and it’s over.


37 posted on 07/30/2014 8:56:34 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If they want to hang their careers out to dry to placate 1.6% of the voters???so be it.


38 posted on 07/30/2014 8:56:35 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"Lobbyists quietly advise GOP on gay marriage shift"

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39 posted on 07/30/2014 8:56:57 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Tagline ...


40 posted on 07/30/2014 8:57:24 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Those who fight God and nature are guaranteed losers.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The GOPe relies way too much on consultants, who I suspect are mostly liberal Democrats. They should listen to their constituents for a change.


41 posted on 07/30/2014 8:57:29 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

42 posted on 07/30/2014 8:57:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ansel12; Responsibility2nd; Westbrook; marron; Dr. Thorne; WilliamRobert; RangerM; ...

The only recourse left is, is we (conservatives) are tired of being betrayed and are leaving the Republicans Party and forming our own party. If you don’t like it, then tough.

If you (the GOP-e) want to talk about why we shouldn’t leave, then first of all stop attacking Tea Partiers and never do this again. And defend them when Dems attack them. Secondly, always defend our position on traditional marriage. Third, no more borrow-and-spend, ever.

Do these three, and we will then compromise on the three major issues that you in the GOP-e want.

If not, then adios...


43 posted on 07/30/2014 8:59:05 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AFA-Michigan; AKA Elena; APatientMan; Abathar; ...
It's time that the GOP suffer the same fate as the Whigs and for nearly identical reasons.

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44 posted on 07/30/2014 8:59:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Just start digging the grave now. The GOP is dead.


45 posted on 07/30/2014 9:03:22 AM PDT by pgkdan (ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“GOP candidates run on traditional issues, and then bait and switch and spend most of their time defending banker-bailouts, defending borrow-and-spend and increasing the deficit, won’t reach out to Tea Partiers and so on.”

...and I contend they have never changed they were always squishy and if you really knew them, you too would know. They were never Conservative, more like fence sitting moderates. They cannot stand real conservatives, way too much principle and not nearly enough go along to get along.


46 posted on 07/30/2014 9:06:53 AM PDT by wita
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
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From blacktie-dc.com

https://www.blacktie-dc.com/photos/photodetail.cfm?id=1680

Enthralling.

47 posted on 07/30/2014 9:07:08 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

from a liberal blogger:
Republican Lesbian Who Helped Write DOMA, Is Now Lobbying To Repeal It (focus on Kathyrn Lehman)

I won’t provide a link to this, you can find it yourself or just trust me....


48 posted on 07/30/2014 9:08:50 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: wagglebee
Thanks for the Ping.

The GOP-e has the BIG $$$, the Super Pacs, and several so-called “journalists,” columnists, and media types practically in their pockets.

But conservatives/Tea partiers are the ones who get out and vote. The GOP-e can't win on their own. They may have the $$$, but 400-500 GOP-e big time $$$ spenders won't do very well when it is 400-500 votes versus 75,000,000 Dems voting.

If conservatives don't go and vote, no Republican wins. Period.

And what I posted in post #43 isn't asking too much of the GOP-e, either.

49 posted on 07/30/2014 9:11:05 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Sadly, this woman who promotes perversion on Capitol Hill is a graduate of two institutions that are religiously connected:

Education

Oral Roberts University, B.A.
Catholic University of America, Columbus School of Law, J.D.

http://www.hklaw.com/Kathryn-Lehman/

Sad.


50 posted on 07/30/2014 9:18:11 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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